Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00733)

Whether Krishnamurti was overshadowed or not has little bearing in my mind, as 
it is his teachings and, when he was alive, his very presence that have and 
will always matter. Was he leaving Theosophy or was he leaving concepts such as 
the erronius and dangerous concept of a world teacher who will save humanity? 

He wanted to help people be entirely free, but we must ask ourselves, "Free 
from what?"

A^A^


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, samblo@c... wrote:
> Pedro,
> In all honesty, no, I am not familiar with the Krishnamurti quote you
> give to me and others. I candidly state that I have not read the works
> and publications of Krishnamurti. I have scant exposure to them. Even
> though I lived in LA for twenty years. I was aware that he lived at Ojai
> the Theosophical Retreat and even have several friends that had been to
> see him and have read his works which they valued highly. My post was
> limited to the Madison Square Garden. I do not think of Krishnamurti as
> responsible for the actions of Besant and leadbeater and I am grateful
> to him for his action then. I appreciate the spiritual altitude he has in
> his discourses that I have had exposure to and it is to his credit that he
> proceeded and became the unique figure in Theosophy that he did in 
> the decades following the Madison Square Garden disaster. In one post
> it was said he left Theosophy but this contrasts his living at Ojai and the
> large following that he developed that thronged to him there. It is a very
> unusual context. The fact that Leadbeater and Besant groomed him from
> childhood for the role they planned has no mark on him in my view, it
> and remains their creation in the timeline.
> 
> As to what he says in the quote, having not read his works I am without
> a defined understanding to just what he is stating in the reference and
> so I make no jump in speculation about it. you are welcome to expand
> on it if you desire. But from what he says it reminds me of Madame
> Blavatsky and many of the statements she made and I do find agreement 
> with most of all he said with the sole exception of the ability to will the
> ordered controlled exit from the physical in the limit of the very
> advanced Adepts. Perhaps what is a monitor to the expression of Will 
> concerns the Karmic residuals, my speculation here.
> 
> John 
> 
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