Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00459)

> From: "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Theos-World One Universal Law
> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 06:22:37 -0000
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Ali Hassan" <ananda_hotai@h...>
> wrote:
> >The
> > Law is never compassionate, nor beneficient. It is merely the Law.
>
> The categorical tone of your posting reminded me of a passage from
> the Mahatma Letters, which perhaps apply to every student of
> Theosophy:
>
> "You share with all beginners the tendency to draw too absolutely
> strong inferences from partly caught hints, and to dogmatize
> thereupon as though the last word had been spoken. You will correct
> this in due time. You may misunderstand us, are more than likely to
> do so, for our language must always be more or less that of parable
> and suggestion, when treading upon forbidden ground; we have our own
> peculiar modes of expression and what lies behind the fence of words
> is even more important than what you read. But still — TRY." (Letter
> 111, chronological).
lol! point taken. I'm not getting into a quote-fest with you, though..

> Here are some sources that indicate that the universal Law may not be
> what we think it is. There are many similar teachings in different
> traditions.
>
> St Paul (Romans, 13:10) says: "Love worketh no ill to his neighbour:
> therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
>
> "The Law which, shunning learning, teaches Wisdom, reveals a tale of
> woe." (The Voice of the Silence, II:106)
What do you think is meant by this? ^

> "False learning is rejected by the wise, and scattered to the winds
> by the Good Law. Its wheel revolves for all, the humble and the
> proud. The Doctrine of the Eye is for the crowd, the Doctrine of the
> Heart for the elect. The first repeat in pride: 'Behold, I know'; the
> last, they who in humbleness have garnered, low confess, 'Thus have I
> heard.'" (Idem, II:119)
ya ya yadda. In my experience, the Law of Karma clothes what we call Love. 
This is not what St. Paul referred to, just as the Buddha referred to two 
different Streams- one which is the downward flow, i.e. karmic law; the 
other one, which entered, one is called a Stream-entrant, i.e. one following 
the Dharma-Law, not the karma-law.
If you can't understand the difference, I suggest you reread your own first 
quote, the one about beginners.

> "Yet I confess that I, individually, am not yet exempt from some of
> the terrestial attachments. I am still attracted towards some men
> more than toward others, and philanthropy as preached by our Great
> Patron — "the Saviour of the World — the Teacher of Nirvana and the
> Law," has never killed in me either individual preferences of
> friendship, love for my next of kin, or the ardent feeling of
> patriotism for the country in which I was last materially
> individualized." (Letter 15, chronological)
>
> In the Indian tradition, Shiva is identified as the Destroyer and
> Regenerator aspects of the Ultimate Reality or Law (Brahman). The
> name Shiva, though, means "auspicious, propitious, gracious,
> favourable, benign, kind, benevolent, friendly, dear." (From "A
> Sanskrit-English Dictionary by Sir Monier Monier-Williams.)
>
> Pedro
Yes, Shiva is Destroyer. Shiva is guru. Shiva destroys everything that is 
dukkha, or form, from the life of the microbe to the universe. If properly 
propitiated, Shiva the guru will destroy our ignorance. With Shiva's grace, 
we transcend the law of karma by fulfilling the Law of Love, thus becoming 
Law-Givers. See if you can find this quote anywhere?

regards-

Ali

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