Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00443)

Steve,
Well, I place little credence in the virtue or honesty of the Nicene 
fathers
who issue proclamation "we create these lies for the good of the many"
and it seems their little value is that they published in their irrational
diatribe of slanders, distortions, character assassinations, and actual
assassinations in their grubby ergos to achieve Universal Power and
dominance over humankind and revealing just those same inheritances
of value that were found in the Nag Hammadi, which incidentally they
also attempted to move heaven and earth to prevent the publication of
to the world and the public at large, one can only describe them as 
"Suppressive" to knowledge and freedom of thought as relates to the
at large population of the world. 

At any rate, you state "if I remember right," and I allow myself that
prerogative at times so that is OK, but I do think you do in this one
case. The "Abortion" of Sophia was "Yaldabaoth" not Sophia Achamoth.
Yaldabaoth represented the Demiurgos as the Principle actor in the 
Cosmological Play of the Gnostic Creation, he was the creator "with
limit," the limit being Matter or Mulaprakriti down to the grosser
substances. It was Sophia herself who for the first time willed to 
originate
a creation entirely of herself without the unity (syzygy) of her consort 
the
Father of All. When she looked upon her creation she was aggrieved and 
dismayed, disgusted and forlorn of the disfigured insufficiency she had
brought into existence, ashamed, she removed it from her lofty height
and surrounded it with a cloud and placed it in the lower waters. It
was the same Yaldabaoth who created his Sevenfold retinue who later
are referred to by Mary Magdalene as "the Seven Spirits of Wrath."

As I posted earlier I retain the position, else we would be stuck with a
Deity absent of Wisdom as it's perpetual Consort or Syzygy. It is the 
same in
Genesis: In Wisdom (Sophia the Consort) God created the Heavens and
the Earth. There was at a time in the Hebrew Religious evolution the
literal physical representation of the Divine Couple in connubial
embrace 18 feet tall in the Temple. The consort being the Shekinah,
who was the Goddess of the Hebrew Deity, see Israel Patai: the Hebrew
Goddess.

Recognizing the Politics of the Roman Church as being stuck in the
state of vicious unspiritual venal self serving since early on, I do not
place any value in the rhetoric or polemics. Valentinus was a fully
ordinate Bishop of the Roman Church. He couldn't stomach their
atmosphere and cast the dust from his sandals. At any rate he had 
the inspiration of one of the Pneumatics Gnostically. His Movement
created a Church and following equal in adherents, breath, latitude
to the Roman Church due to the appeal and "Beauty" found in it's
Teaching of the Divine Syzygy's, after:"Male and Female created he
them." This was found to be most basic to the ground of Mankind and
did not rely on the Magnificent Beautiful Blood or the Magnificent
Beautiful Pain, or the Magnificent Beautiful Suffering. But rather it 
relied upon the Magnificent Beautiful Love, the Magnificent Beautiful
Marriage, and the Magnificent Beautiful Marriages made in Heaven 
and extended to Mankind. This contrast severely impinged on the
Roman Church, and desperate and seeing they were about to literally
be eclipsed and left in the bin of history they effected a reconciliation
in the 7th century era and the two were "Married" A La Valentines, and
Valentines became "St. Valentine" the emblematic patron Saint of Love.

HMO, I wonder why Mel Gibson missed out on Valentinus?

He, he, I don't bang my books, they are too old and would fall apart.

cordially, John




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