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Re: Theos-World Mary Magdalene

Mar 19, 2004 06:25 AM
by Ali Hassan




From: "stevestubbs" <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Mary Magdalene
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:33:29 -0000

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Erica Letzerich <eletzerich@y...>
wrote:
> Celibacy not as something imposed by the mind or by a
> self control process, celibacy as a natural impulse of
> a soul in the stage of a Mahatma or an Avatar.

I will not argue with you, but I am skeptical about that.

> 59. The wisdom which (humans) call barren is the
> Mother of the Angels. (Ph 40) And the Mate of the
> [Christ] is Mariam Magdalene.

This implies that Mary was metaphorically the church, since the
church is represented as the "bride" of Christ.
No, it means the church metaphorically usurps Mary's position.

> 60. While a blind person and one who sees are both in
> the dark, they do not differ from one another. But
> when the light comes, then he who sees shall behold
> the light yet he who is blind shall remain in the
> darkness. (Th 34; interlinear)

This probably refers to spiritual blindness, which is what is meant
in most cases when Jesus "cured" the blind. He metaphorically opened
their eyes to the spiritual truth he taught.
If you can appreciate the allegorical nature of Jesus curing the blind, perhaps also you can appreciate that the many references Jesus made to bridegroom, brides, bridal chambers were not about carnal marriage relations. [Seinfeld sotto voce: not that there's anything wrong with those]
Mary as bride of Christ was symbolic of the lost or prodigal soul having returned. In that light, the common notion of her being the reformed prostitute enhances her status, imo....even if she wasn't.

> 61. The Lord said: Blest be he who was before he came
> into being. (=Th 19!) For he who is, both was and
> shall be. (Rev/Ap 1:8

This is a reference to the pre-existence of the soul, which is
implied in numerous places in the OT. Origen says ancient scholars
were divided on this and that some insisted the OT taught
traducianism.
Not really, since what you write is an over-simplification. This refers more to his statement, "before Moses was, I am." It is more an assertion of the Christ/Buddha Universal mind, untrammelled by time and space.

> Romans 16:16 Salute one another with an holy kiss.

The fraternal kiss (the name of which implies it was not erotic) was
probably not a French kiss. Chrysostom says it symbolically honored
the mouth because the esoteric teaching was communicated orally and
not written down. He also says there was some concern about people
getting off on it, and this in ancient times. Almost certainly in
the very beginning the fraternal kiss, being fraternmal, was a kiss
on the neck, since this was the custom then.

> A mother that kiss her child on the lips means that
> she has an erotic relationship with the child?

Kissing kids on the mouth is a strange thing to do. Are you
referring to LeTourneau?
I assume you have children to make another such presumptous remark? The 'sin' or 'strange' is in your mind.

regards-

Ali

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