Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00360)

> From: "stevestubbs" <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Mary Magdalene
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:21:05 -0000
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Erica Letzerich <eletzerich@y...>
> wrote:
> > I am trying to find out is if there is
> > anything deeper on the subject.
>
> Well, yes, but it uiis too complex to describe in an e-mail. Think
> Blavatsly's metrological or arithetic key (one of the seven keys.) In
> early Christianity many things came in threes, which invariably
> corresponded to the three parts of the trichotomy, the body, soul,
> and [Holy] Spirit. Bapism was described as an "initiation" in
> ancient writings,
I think it definitely was an initiation. Baptism by water would correspond 
to the astral body, baptism by fire would correspond possibly to the etheric 
or maybe to the mental body.

> but what was only vaguely told to catechumens
> and "babes" (which is what members of the first degree were called(
> was that there were two other degrees. The second was
> called "aspiring to perfection" and the third "rgw pwefwcr degree,"
> the Greek word for perfect meaning :of full age" as ditinguished
> from :babes/"
>
> Anyway, these mystics thought, right or wrong, that man iis really
> not an intrinsically evil being, but that he is made so by evil
> eexternal entities which attached themselves to his heart (thinking
> principle) for the purpose of vicariously experienving sensual
> pleasures. The worl of the second degree consisted of srudying
> esoteric theories and going through a series of exorcisms (consisting
> mainly of prayer and fasting) which were believed to expel these evil
> entities and "purify" the heart. When the process was comp;eted the
> ystic was initiated into the third degree and taught the technique of
> Merkabah mysticism, one purpose of which was to attain the Beatific
> Vision. This is the esoteric meaning of the beatitude that the pure
> of heart shall see God.
>
> It was believed that these evil entities could conceal their presence
> so as not to be expelled, so that seemingly normal people could have
> these entities attached to their hearts. The esoteruic meaning of
> the statement that Mary had seven devils cast out of her is therefore
> not that she was crazy but that she completed the wok of the second
> degree under the direct supervision of her teacher, Jesus. None of
Do tell? So she and the others whom Jesus cast devils out of weren't plagued 
with earthbounds as is commonly supposed?
Although the specific number '7' does make one pause.


> this is supposition, there are ancient documents ine existece which
> support all these statements but the general public is unaware of
> them. That is furthermore only the uppermost tip of the esoteriuc
> Christian iceberg, the content of which is known to only a few people
> in the world and which has never been written plainly in book form,
> despite ghastly productions like the book by A Besant. There is no
> book worth reading on the subject that I know of. The secret
> teachings are still secret after two millenia.
"only a few people in the world"? I love such statements.

> No comment on whether these theories were true in a scientific sense.
>
> > In general lines what researches mention on the
> > subject, is that there was an antagonism between Peter
> > and Mary
>
> I have never seen evidence of that, but there was a three way
> antagonism between Peter, Paul, and James. The edoteric schools
> which descended from the three were in rivalry with each other.
>
> > everything indicates that Mary indeed
> > was one of the greatest disciples of Jesus, not a
> > lover as some say.
>
> Not everything. THE GOSPEL OF PHILIP makes it quite clear Mary was
> Jesus' lover. So there was a tradition to that effect in ancient
> times.
Makes it quite clear after 2 millenium untouched, unexpurgated, perfectly 
translated. Nice.

regards-

Ali

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