Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00314)

> From: "krishtar" <krishtar_a@brturbo.com>
> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: Theos-World tulkus a rubish?
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:48:13 -0300
>
> Ali
>
> In what spiritual basis can you call the Tulkuīs process a rubish?
> Under a westener intellectual point of view?
> I think the westerners who are interested in Dharma can learn better from 
> the Tulkus than anywhere else.
> If there are some inconsistences in some aspects, I donīt know if it is 
> real inconsistence or a limitation of our western -understanding but 
> considering a rubish is really heavy.
>
> Krishtar
Hi Krishtar-

If you read through my post, I don't think my pov is that of an anti-dharma 
western intellectual. I also don't think that a 'western intellectual' is 
the only "anti-tulku" stance one can take. You notice I'm going on in this 
thread about HPB taking a relatively early return that is possibly 
verifiable?
My point is that everything about the exoteric Tibetan tulku system looks 
like superstition to me.

And while we're on the subject of dharma and Tibetans, I'd point out that 
many of the Tibetan exports to the U.S. who have professed to be carriers of 
the Dharma have been rapacious monsters who've done great harm....and were 
carriers of something entirely different. They introduce quaint and charming 
"Tibetan buddhist" rituals and give holy-sounding Tibetan names to 
prospective disciples during the day, then rape and sodomize those same 
disciples at night.

As for the tulku system, as I mention, the identifying of objects by infants 
who are curious to pick them up and play with them....just doesn't convince 
me that those are instant rebirths of an incarnation of Amitabha or 
Avolokiteshvara...or whichever deity. Don't get me wrong, I think the Dalai 
Lama is a fine fellow. Considering he has been trained from Day 1 for his 
job, and has not just gotten to sit on a throne, he's been quite tested. I 
have no issues with him, but his co-tulku seems a bit dicey and some of the 
folks he's endorsed have also been bad folks.

regards-

Ali

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