Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00122)

Apparentely Netemara888 wrote:  

"Well, hell most Jews are now atheists 
and homosexuals. . . ."

Ah, I see.....a generalization.....

I will have to show some of my Jewish friends 
this statement. I can imagine their reactions.

Netemara888, I ask you:

Do you REALLY believe that MOST Jews are now 
atheists and homosexuals?

And even IF this was REALLY true, are you implying 
that it is somehow BAD to be an atheist or homosexual 
or both??!!

Daniel


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "netemara888" <netemara888@y...> 
wrote:
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Ali Hassan" <ananda_hotai@h...> 
> wrote:
> > >From: Bart Lidofsky <bartl@s...>
> > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: ". . .HPB is regarded by some 
people 
> as a 
> > >forerunner of Hitler...."
> > >Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:10:11 -0500
> > >
> > >Ali Hassan wrote:
> > > > Where do you see a connection between Bailey? I don't see any 
> connection
> > > > between Blavatsky/Bailey and 'H' anywhere.
> > >
> > >	Well, let's see the Bailey connections:
> > >
> > >	1) Identification of Nordic Europeans with "Aryans".
> > 
> > She mentions them as a subrace of the 5th "Aryan" race. Nowhere 
> does she 
> > contradict HPB that I've seen, but fills in gaps in a most 
> detailed 
> > fashion. Considering HPB's own gigantic work offering plenty of 
> > opportunities, that's a major statement.
> > 
> > >	2) Identification of Africans and Asians as belonging to 
> earlier root
> > >races.
> > 
> > She does that. Nowhere does she imply inferiority or racial 
> prerogative in 
> > vehicles. Some people think a new Toyota Camry is best; some 
prefer 
> a '57 
> > Ford T-Bird convertible.
> > 
> > >	3) Identification as the Jews as inferior and recalcitrant 
> for refusing
> > >to accept Jesus.
> > >	4) Identification of homosexuals as evil.
> > >
> > >	Just to name a few...
> > 
> > Have you ever read Bailey's massive works? I doubt you have from 
> these 
> > claims. I've never seen anything like those spurious remarks. I 
> further take 
> > it from what I've noticed that most 'mainline' theosophists 
repugn 
> the works 
> > of Alice Bailey?
> > 
> > She does go into granular delineation of the root races, the 
> history of the 
> > Jews, and the 19 million year history of homosexuality in the 
Human 
> Race and 
> 
> This is an important point. I don't recall these details but the 
> books do mention that this behavior is one that was chosen, learned 
> and loved by the Atlantean peoples. I think she makes that point as 
> well that this was a characteristic of the Atlanteans. I think she 
> also says that they are part of the moon chain or will be sent to 
> another planet for further evolution, those who persist in being 
> homosexuals. 
> 
> This will become more germane in the future as more and more people 
> reveal that they have been "victims" of "incest" and the attention 
> of "gay people" who have turned pedophiles, i.e. catholic priests. 
I 
> put these words in quotations because it was the NORM in Atlantean 
> days. This is what people do not realize. This is the reason for 
the 
> Cruxifixion. He died for these "fucking" sins -- it's that simple.
> 
> Now, if this is true, I don't know if it is then it would not be 
too 
> good for those that will be so marroned on another planet. However, 
> could that be their "heaven?" Seems so. Many believe that AIDS is 
the 
> cure for those who chose in the past this evil life and never 
unchose 
> it.
> 
> Please read that chapter in the SD in which she talks about the 
> religion of Judaism. It is an eyeopener. I stayed up all night 
> reading it last year. It is extreme in her view which is absolutely 
> ZERO tolerance for the religion. Now, most Jews say that means that 
> you are talking about them too. Well, hell most Jews are now 
atheists 
> and homosexuals so we could not be talking about them per se, but 
> about the orthodox religion that both B and B call the worse of 
evils.
> 
> I had no idea how strong the sentiment was against the religion of 
> Judaism. They say it is a "horrible" religion and has to go. Does 
> this mean the Jews too? I don't know.
> 
> It will be decided by HIM on his second coming. 
> 
> Netemara
> 
> > methods of alleviation. Interesting that she places the "cause" 
for 
> it on 
> > the over-sexed activity of the extant heterosexual humanity when 
> that 
> > particular subrace was taking form for the 1st time.
> > Her remarks re: the Jews compares them to the crest of humanity, 
> but that 
> > their time has come and gone and assimilation is the desirable 
> path. She 
> > never mentions inferiority, but recalcitrance- do you have a 
> problem with 
> > that? She does pointedly mention that Jesus will not take a 
Jewish 
> body 
> > again, if/when He reappears as the Christ/Buddha. Would you, in 
his 
> shoes? 
> > And she further prophesies a particularized Jewish Messiah....
> > 
> > regards-
> > 
> > Ali
> > 
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