Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00120)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel H. Caldwell" 
<danielhcaldwell@y...> wrote:
> Frank has written that ". . .HPB is regarded by some people as a 
forerunner of Hitler...."
> 
> Unfortunately, Frank does NOT explain how and why these people 
would come to such a conclusion. Furthermore, Frank does NOT tell us 
whether he is of the same opinion, i.e.,
> HPB was a forerunner of Hitler. 
> 
> As far as I can tell, HPB and Hitler are at opposite ends of the 
spectrum!
> 
> What pray tell does Hitler have to do with HPB, the Mahatmas and 
Theosophy?
> 
> Personally, I regard Hitler as a FIEND. The dictionary defines a 
fiend as "a devil; a demon; a person of great wickedness or 
maliciousness." 

I think it can be said that HPB was extremely dissapointed in the 
path that Hitler chose. He was probably following some thoughtform 
that he had distilled from higher up and got it wrong. Essentially I 
don't think Hitler was so much an evil man as one who mistakenly 
played "GOD" and that is where he went wrong. That scenario might be 
then interpreted as "evil" or the lack of "good" but it was obviously 
a part of the destiny of the world, was it not?

Netemara
> 
> See HPB's article titled KARMIC VISIONS
> http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/KarmicVisions.htm
> where she writes:
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> A hideous dream detaches itself from a group of passing visions, 
and alights heavily on his aching chest. The night-mare shows him 
men, expiring on the battle field with a curse on those who led them 
to their destruction. Every pang in his own wasting body brings to 
him in dream the recollection of pangs still worse, of pangs suffered 
through and for him. He sees and feels the torture of the fallen 
millions, who die after long hours of terrible mental and physical 
agony; who expire in forest and plain, in stagnant ditches by the 
road-side, in pools of blood under a sky made black with smoke. His 
eyes are once more rivetted to the torrents of blood, every drop of 
which represents a tear of despair, a heart-rent cry, a life-long 
sorrow. He hears again the thrilling sighs of desolation, and the 
shrill cries ringing through mount, forest and valley. He sees the 
old mothers who have lost the light of their souls; families, the 
hand that fed them. He beholds widowed young wives thrown on
> the wide, cold world, and beggared orphans wailing in the streets 
by the thousands. He finds the young daughters of his bravest old 
soldiers exchanging their mourning garments for the gaudy frippery of 
prostitution, and the Soul-Ego shudders in the sleeping Form. . . . 
His heart is rent by the groans of the famished; his eyes blinded by 
the smoke of burning hamlets, of homes destroyed, of towns and cities 
in smouldering ruins. . . . 
> 
> "What have they brought thee or to thy fatherland, those bloody 
victories!" whispers the Soul in him. "A population clad in iron 
armour," it replies. "Two score millions of men dead now to all 
spiritual aspiration and Soul-life. A people, henceforth deaf to the 
peaceful voice of the honest citizen's duty, averse to a life of 
peace, blind to the arts and literature, indifferent to all but lucre 
and ambition. What is thy future Kingdom, now? A legion of war-
puppets as units, a great wild beast in their collectivity. A beast 
that, like the sea yonder, slumbers gloomily now, but to fall with 
the more fury on the first enemy that is indicated to it. Indicated, 
by whom? It is as though a heartless, proud Fiend, assuming sudden 
authority, incarnate Ambition and Power, had clutched with iron hand 
the minds of a whole country. By what wicked enchantment has he 
brought the people back to those primeval days of the nation when 
their ancestors, the yellow-haired Suevi, and the treacherous Franks
> roamed about in their warlike spirit, thirsting to kill, to 
decimate and subject each other? By what infernal powers has this 
been accomplished? Yet the transformation has been produced and it is 
as undeniable as the fact that alone the Fiend rejoices and boasts of 
the transformation effected. The whole world is hushed in breathless 
expectation. Not a wife or mother, but is haunted in her dreams by 
the black and ominous storm-cloud that overhangs the whole of Europe. 
The cloud is approaching. . . . . .It comes nearer and nearer Oh woe 
and horror! I foresee once more for earth the suffering I have 
already witnessed. I read the fatal destiny upon the brow of the 
flower of Europe's youth. . . .
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> 
> Below are some links to informative articles on Hitler and related 
subjects.
> 
> Adolf Hitler
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
> 
> Nazism
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
> 
> Nazi Germany
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany
> 
> Racial policy of Nazi Germany
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany
> 
> 
> Holocaust
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust
> 
> Extermination camps
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp
> 
> Auschwitz concentration camp
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp#Criticisms
> 
> Nuremberg Trials
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials
> 
> Holocaust denial
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial
> 
> Jews
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews
> 
> 
> Anti-Semitism
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism
> 
> Neo-Nazism
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel H. Caldwell
> BLAVATSKY STUDY CENTER/BLAVATSKY ARCHIVES
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/introduction.htm
> 
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> "...Contrast alone can enable us to appreciate things at 
> their right value; and unless a judge compares notes and 
> hears both sides he can hardly come to a correct decision."
> H.P. Blavatsky. The Theosophist, July, 1881, p. 2
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