Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00116)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "krishtar" <krishtar_a@b...> wrote:
> Hi
> It is sad.
> I joined this group 2 years ago in order to learn a littīle more 
and share views but what I truly found here was nothing but too few 
people with humbleness and compassion, esteem, but a great majority, 
by the messages posted recently, such as Arielīs,( and others), with 
whom I had the tragic experience of exchanging a few posts about 
meditation- where arrogance is a constant and estimableness is a rare 
quality.
> Why does it happens?
> We sometimes proudly say we are theosophists or students of the 
occult but it seems that all the wisdom obtained by reading that 
enters through oneīs right ear, steps out by the left one!!!!!!
> Although I have much consideration for Daniel and many others from 
the group, I sometimes think the Group is not used to share and grow 
but to show-off a knowlege many donīt have, to inflate their egos.
> Something seems like a lot of pseudo scientists who forget their 
necessity of this incarnation to get a bit more mature spiritually 
speaking.
> Many repudiate religious concepts, considering hypocrisy, but 
tenderness and friendliness is important, no matter if we are in 
front of a CRT screen or a flesh and blood person
> I gess we should stop for a while and think.
> 
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> Krishtar
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bill Meredith 
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: High esteem or arrogance ??
> 
> 
> It is a well-worn ploy to quote from unnamed sources who write 
privately yet
> are fully informed of the goings on here at theos-talk. I wonder 
if you
> asked Paul's permission before you made his private comments 
public?
> 
> Probably not.
> 
> Neither you nor Leon have gained the complete understanding of 
meditation.
> This is evidenced throughout your writings by your overpowering,
> self-inflating ego stomping around in cyberspace like a blind 
elephant in
> our living room.
> 
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stevestubbs" <stevestubbs@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:57 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: High esteem or arrogance ??
> 
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> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> > > Stopping the modifications of mind is not the basis of any 
form of
> > meditation
> > > that I know about.
> >
> > People keep writing me privately about hoe "embarrassed" they 
are
> > that you keep trumpeting your ignorance. One of these e-mails 
said:
> >
> > "First he tells us he does not know anything about mathematics, 
then
> > he lectures us on "superstring" theory. Then he tells us he 
does not
> > know anything about geography, and lectures us on how Wasington 
is a
> > far northern US city. Now he is saying he does not know 
anything
> > about meditation and he is lecturing us on that. Isn't this
> > embarrassing?"
> >
> > I have not responded yet. I do not know how to respond.
> >
> > Yes, stopping the modifications of the mind is the basis of 
EVERY
> > system of meditation.
> >

Maybe it would help you to read some of the Esoteric Psychology books 
by AAB in which they describe the rays and the personalities and the 
flaws associated with those rays. There is a great deal of discussion 
about intellectual pride in the second ray. This is also a quality of 
the mind itself.

In other words as long as there is mind in matter there will be ego 
and pride in some individuals. Find out about your own rays 
personality flaws. That will be an eye opener for ya. And if you say 
you have NO flaws then that too is a form of ego and arrogance.

Some of the stupidest people I've ever met were also extremely 
humble. You can have it, I think it is overrated.

Netemara
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