Re: Theos-World re "What is the purpose for our Universe and ourselves?"
Mar 07, 2004 04:11 PM
by Ali Hassan
From: "stevestubbs" <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World re "What is the purpose for our Universe and
ourselves?"
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 04:37:36 -0000
There is no purpose. You are confusing purpose with process.
Whether there is or is not karma has nothing to do with the question
of whether there us or is not purpose. Whether there is or is not a
universe has nothing to do with whether there is or is not purpose.
Many years ago when I was meditating, the "answer" came to me in the
following six words:
It is,
Things are,
That's it.
There is no sense analyzing that. Either you get it or you don't
I think it's more a description of your personal awareness, rather than
'getting' it. One of buddhism's prime tenets is "things aren't". "It is"
also would follow as a false notion, since "It" would refer to samsara.
The uselesness of analysis can be seen in the Six Aphorisms of
Naropa, which (this is from memory) go something like this:
Don't think
Don't meditate
Don't concentrate
Don't visualize
DON'T DO ANYTHING
Just let ir be.
This is one of the roots of Dzogchen, no? Walking meditation, wherein the
practitioner 'attempts to bring that state of samadhi' into all aspects of
consciousness. True?
The monumental effort of will required to "Don't think" and "Just let it
be"- these words slip out so effortlessly. When did Naropa come to this, at
the beginning of his sadhana or the end?
Same with the Buddha. They, the Chan Masters, etc. all came up with those
seemingly effortless DON'T DO ANYTHING slogans after decades and lifetimes
of strenuous effort.
which in a few words sums up the practice known as Mahamudra in Tibet
and Shikan-taza in Japan.
regards-
Ali
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