Theos-Talk Archives (February 2004 Message tt00050)

The following will be of interest:
The Theosophist, vol.4 No.3 December 1882 says:
REMOVAL OF HEADQUARTERS
The growth of the TS and new geographical distribution
of its work compel the removal of the Asiatic
Heardquarters to a point on the East Coast of India
.....
Dr Ramanujachary
--- Dallas TenBroeck <dalval14@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Jan 31 2004
> 
> Dear Tony:
> 
> Of course you are right..
> 
> And thanks for the reference to the last pages of
> the SECRET DOCTRINE.
> Editions 1 and 2.I did not know this.
> 
> When mentioning "de facto" and "de jure" I was
> quoting, and I have (and
> had) no intention to make further "divisions" or
> open old wounds. Just
> making an historical point.
> 
> Best wishes,,
> 
> Dal
> 
> ============================
> 
> 
> 
> Dallas
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:53 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: Where is the H Q of the T S ?
> 
> Dear Dallas
> 
> On the last page of "The Secret Doctrine" (original
> and 2nd editions
> only,
> i.e., not in the facsimiles) it states:
> 
> "The Society has branches in all parts of the world,
> and head-quarters
> in
> India, Europe, and America, where all further
> information may be
> obtained
> from the following:-
> 
> In INDIA from-
> THE SECRETARY OF THE T.S.,
> ADYAR, MADRAS.
> 
> In EUROPE From-
> THE GENERAL SECRETARY OF THE B.S.T.S.
> 7, DUKE STREET,
> ADELPHI, LONDON, W.C.
> 
> In AMERICA from-
> THE GENERAL SECRETARY OF THE A.S.T.S.,
> P.O. BOX 2659,
> NEW YORK, U.S.A."
> 
> As far as India is concerned it is: T.S.
> Europe and America are described as the British
> SECTION & American
> SECTION
> of the T.S.
> 
> Rather than "de facto" or "de jure," perhaps what
> should interest us
> more,
> is: "de heart" or "de eye."
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dallas TenBroeck
> [mailto:dalval14@earthlink.net]
> Sent: 29 January 2004 11:36 pm
> To: AA-BN--Study
> Subject: Theos-World RE: Manas and Blavatsky on the
> Christian Mass
> media...
> 
> 
> Thursday, January 29, 2004
> 
> 
> Re: T S History -- a correction
> 
> Where is the H Q of the T S ?
> 
> 
> Dear Friends:
> 
> I find a posting that reads in part: "an article by
> Blavatsky written
> in Bombay in 1879 - the year when the Theosophical
> Society's
> headquarters was transferred to India,"
> 
> Allow me to make a correction in fact of this view
> of T S history.
> 
> The H Q of the T S was never formally by Resolution
> "transferred" out of
> New York . The Minute Books of the original T S 
> are with the T S in A
> in Pasadena, and they verify this as I have seen
> them.
> 
> Col. Olcott and HPB went to India in 1878, arriving
> in Bombay in 1879.
> 
> The Resolution recorded in the T S Minute Book was
> that they were
> constituted a "Delegation."
> 
> The T S had at that time proposed to affiliate
> itself with the ARYA
> SAMAJ [Assembly of the Nobles] movement of Pandit
> Dayanand Saraswati.
> They went to India and one of their objects was to
> cement this
> affiliation. It did not succeed because of
> Dayanand's insistence on
> absolute authority -- and therefore, complete
> obedience to his rules and
> decisions.
> 
> The freedom of the members of the T S being
> impugned, it was not
> possible for the "Delegation" to ratify the proposed
> affiliation. It
> was therefore abandoned and instead, it was decided
> to establish a
> Branch of the T S first in Bombay. Later many more
> Branches were
> established all over India. An Indian HQ became
> necessary. The Adyar
> property was bought with funds provided by Col.
> Olcott and HPB. Details
> of these matters will be found recorded in the early
> volumes of the
> THEOSOPHIST. They are also summarized in the book: 
> The THEOSOPHICAL
> MOVEMENT (1875-1950).
> 
> Col. Olcott, when in India declared that the H Q was
> wherever he was
> encamped. This was the basis on which thereafter
> matters were
> conducted. It is called legally: a "de facto"
> decision. Whereas: "de
> jure," the T S as a Society never left the shores of
> America, its
> birthplace. And its HQ remained in New York.
> 
> The SEAL of the T S was changed in India, and then
> adopted generally as
> mentioned.
> 
> We may also take note of a judicial contribution
> made as to the legal
> nature of the T S (reprinted from The KEY TO
> THEOSOPHY :
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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