Theos-Talk Archives (January 2004 Message tt00168)

Hi Dallas and Daniel, 

I thought there was somewhere a statement that HPB (and Olcott) said
that neither of them would be communicating through mediums after
their deaths. But since Judge wasn't a medium and a reincarnation of
HPB in a child would also not fall into that category I don't think
there are statements by HPB that make it easy to judge in this case.
The below (the mahatma quotes by Dallas) certainly isn't relevant. HPB
was not included in the term 'Mahatma', even if she was IN A SENSE a
mahatma (a great soul).

Daniel, I think I am not be the only one who would be interested in
hearing just to what extent the claims by the book 'The Theosophical
Movement' and Judge that Besant was hypnotised/magnetized/improperly
influenced by Chakravarti are true. So please do share your notes and
any sources you may have. 

Katinka
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Dallas TenBroeck" <dalval14@e...>
wrote:
> Dear Friends:
> 
> I find in MAHATMA LETTERS that from the earliest times of communications
> the Masters have left the following safe-guard for claims to
> communications from Them outside of HPB's direct statements .
> 
> This does not seem to cover some communications, as later in the case of
> W. Q. Judge, whom H P B had said was in contact with the
> Nirmanakaya.(Oct. 3, 1886) p. 19, Sven Eek -- Bio. On W Q J; 
> Blavatsky: COLLECTED WORKS VII p. 138.
> 
> --------------------------
> 
> 
> Masters on Communications with Individuals 
> 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel H. Caldwell [mailto:danielhcaldwell@y...] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:25 AM
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Theos-World Re: ". . . with HPB's blessings"
> 
> Bart, 
> 
> See the link below to read what W.Q. Judge wrote 
> in 1895 about his communications with the dead H.P.B.:
> 
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/stokesjudge1495.htm
> 
> I will have to find the quotes from Mrs. Besant
> and Mr. Leadbeater. I believe they both believed
> at one time that HPB had reincarnated in the body of 
> a Hindu boy. Mr. Leadbeater even had (astral?) 
> discussions with this boy. In the mid-1890s, Mrs.
> Besant may have believed HPB had reincarnated as
> a daughter of Chakravarti. I will have to get 
> out my notes to verify exactly what they did claim.
> 
> Daniel