Theos-Talk Archives (December 2003 Message tt00241)

In a message dated 12/12/03 1:05:44 PM, bartl@sprynet.com writes:

leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
> Not when the colors are based on specific frequencies of light that obey 
> cyclic laws of harmony, and when you can treat them mathematically as 
vectors. 
> This also, incidentally, applies to sound and any other harmonic 
frequencies of 
> energy from radio waves to gamma rays. Incidentally, the law of seven is 
based 
> (among other factors) on the fact that the cycle or sine wave has three 
null 
> points or nodes and four directions of motion. Also, on a sine wave, if 
you 
> count the changes of direction or condition of motion and charge from the 
start 
> point to the end point, there are seven stages or changes in all. No man 
> made that happen or made it all up arbitrarily. "It's amazing how many 
times the 
> number seven shows up as a fundamental harmonic in all quantum physics 
> equations." (So said Richard Feynman, one of the foremost theoretical 
physicists of 
> our times.) Wake up and smell the coffee. (Or study a little science and 
> mathematics, and then try understanding the basis of theosophical 
metaphysics 
> before spouting such nonsense.:-) 

[Bart] Do you have a source for that quote, by the way?

[LM] Not in print. I think I remember him saying it at a lecture back in 
60's. Some years later, I saw it written in a scientific paper (by someone else 
who may have been at that lecture or picked it up from one of Feynman's 
books)... But, I haven't the faintest idea by whom and where it was repeated. 

[Bart] However, you are getting at something. If you take one, split it, and 
put in a fulcrum, you have 3, including the fulcrum. If you take 3, 
split it, and put IT on a fulcrum, you get 7. Now, this would imply 
significance to the numbers 15 and 31 as well. Do we see those numbers 
appearing frequently?

[LM] Thanks. Although I knew I was getting at something. And, since I see 
the relationship between your balanced seesaw numbers totaling 3 and 7 with the 
numbers 15 and 31 -- it actually does prove that the number 7 (along with all 
the others) have a particular significance with respect to the quantal states 
of relative motion and energy of the fundamental sine wave or cycle -- which 
in the case of spherical fields, reflects in the periodicity of those seesaw 
numbers in the fractal hyperspace involution of primal fields as described in 
my ABC "chakrafield" diagram...
http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html

And, therefore, those numbers do appear frequently. Although, since they are 
related to involution of primal zero-point hyperspace fields, we might not 
see them, except when those fields reflect their fundamental harmonics in sound 
and colors or any other cyclically patterned regular symmetrical forms such 
as, water waves, snowflakes, leaves, etc. 

But, you are right, they don't appear regularly in numbers we constantly 
count or see around us. However, while we may think we are arbitrarily selecting 
the number seven as particularly significant, such a selection is really built 
in at the higher levels of our unconscious, intuitive or spiritual nature. 

But, since in the West (and now much of the East) the diatonic musical scale 
is the one we use to express our inner emotional and spiritual truths, the 
number seven, as the natural nodes of the repetitive octave is far more 
significant than all the other possible musical scales. In light colors, too, there 
are even more reasons to consider the number seven as being particularly 
significant. One, being that photonic fields, and their hyperspace reflections, so 
to speak -- follow the same fractal involutional patterns as the primal 
universal fields (which, in the final analysis, are nothing but pure light in varying 
degrees of frequency-energy-density phase orders).

Note the following characteristics of that involution:

The first iteration is 3 spheres, the first basic balanced harmonic (1+1+1), 
The second iteration is 7 spheres, the second balanced harmonic (3+1+3)
The third iteration is 15 spheres, the third balanced harmonic (7+1+7)
The fourth iteration is 31 spheres, the fourth balanced harmonic (15+1+15)
... And so on... (notice that each side of the seesaw is also a harmonic 
number)
These numbers then constitute the basis of an infinite series that underlies 
all the repeatable symmetries of nature. From that point of view, the 3 and 
the 7 have particular significance over all other numbers since they are the 
only primal single balanced digits emanating out of primal spin (0) or perfect 
balance itself. Please note that we are skipping all the intermediate balances 
such as 5, 9, 11, 13, etc., since they are not primary, but secondary 
harmonics within the primaries. 

The above sequence of iterations is related to the primal field formula 3 
+1+4+1+5 = 7 + 7 given in the Book of Dzyan. If this fractal involution is the 
primal basis of all hyperspace fields in the ensuing universe, then those 
balanced numbers are repeatable harmonics throughout all of nature -- with 3 and 7 
being particularly significant to the study of theosophy itself. 
Unfortunately, like all activities in the quantum realms, its scale is far below the level 
of our normally perceptive consciousness. So, no argument related to 
physical or metric numbers, really holds much water. Also, these physical numbers 
are denormalized or deregularized so to speak, upon inflation and the breaking 
of symmetry after the big bang. This accounts for the irregularity of shapes 
within generally regular form patterns... So, no hexagonal snowflake looks like 
any other snowflake. That also goes for people.

LHM