Theos-Talk Archives (December 2003 Message tt00229)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hallo all of you,
> 
> My views are:
> 
> Permit me to ask:
> Does this then imply, that one shouldn't walk around among sinners 
anymore,
> so to help them ?

Hello Sufi, and yes i will forward it.

Yes, in a way it does imply that there is a sort of social or 
spiritual distance or disconnect between those who are sinners 
(because they eat meat?) and just plain sinners. In fact it was 
pointed out by AAB (in her unfinished autobiography) and by others 
that those who were vegetarian in her group were especially nasty in 
their criticism of others.

She pointed out that it made people who were vegetarian feel 
themselves somehow superior and they were snobs in their attitude 
towards others. 

AAB felt that this was antiChristian in attitude but not that 
vegetarianism was anti Christian. I found in myself that when I 
first became a vegetarian I was totally given over to feeling 
superior and wanted to convert everyone to vegetarianism.

In fact, I did convert for a short and long time most of my family 
to giving up meat. Some went back to meat eventually. But this is a 
good point and a good question which deserves some thought.

Later, after realizing that I was being heavy handed I stopped 
pushing my diet on others and then became more reclusive. I know 
that even though HPB had a lot of people around her she was quite 
reserved in her inner attitude and truly a recluse for much of her 
life! But she was not a vegetarian in any strict sense but for a 
short part of her extraordinary life.

Thanks for asking

Netemara


> I think Jesus Christ did that.
> 
> I think it is important to forward this question.
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "netemara888" <netemara888@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:05 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Should I give up meat?
> 
> 
> > That is somewhat of an unspoken concern about many people who eat
> > meat but want to meditate. I will tell you honestly, I have 
taken it
> > on the chin and gone out on a limb in order to test many of these
> > spiritual things which are sometimes a trial in order to report 
back
> > to myself, my soul and others whether or not there is some 
spiritual
> > truth to these things.
> >
> > I tell you truly that there is a karma attached to eating meat. 
It
> > is real. The more time you have spent in vegetarianism and
> > meditation the more clearly this will become for you.
> >
> > The RS masters liken it to wearing a thin shirt to wearing a 
heavy
> > coat and running in the summer. That is a good analogy. Which 
one is
> > easier? It is not that it is impossible to do so, but it is 
easier.
> >
> > It is like sand continually going back into the hole each time 
you
> > dig when you eat meat, drink alcohol and try to meditate.
> >
> > Then there are those who doubt that this is a real path, or the
> > camino real as they call it also. I would have to say that the 
proof
> > is in the results. I can look at journals I have written and 
turn to
> > any year in time and find answers that I am looking for. 
Especially
> > when I face a fork in the road.
> >
> > You can have this kind of peace of mind as well, if you seek it.
> >
> > There are studies which show that the alpha brain wave pattern is
> > increased or easier to establish when you meditate daily. Then 
there
> > are people who say that a mental imbalance might show up when one
> > begins to meditate.
> >
> > I don't believe that. I think if you really examine the life of 
the
> > person who makes this claim it can be established that there was
> > some sort of mental imbalance before the meditation began.
> > Meditation is like medicine, take it only under the direction of 
a
> > spiritual doctor.
> >
> > Netemara
> >
> >
> >
> >
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