Theos-Talk Archives (December 2003 Message tt00088)

Hallo Christina and all of you,


My views are:

I didn't get that.
What are you trying to say with this email ?

I cull the good I find in each teaching.
Both Blavatsky's and Alice A. Bailey's.

Annie Besant she is gnat compared to an elephant if you compare her with
Idries Shah on the issue of the Middle East and the Sufis.


I suggest:
Let us read what has been prepared for each of us.
Some is good for you. Some is good for me.
This is the best.
Nature offers a wide variety of "papers" and also living creatues all around
us. Distance is of no importance if one truely walks the path.

The problem is:
If someone wants to learn - they quite often want to use a method
which isn't helpfull at all. This is what all this is about.

I the method are damaging then it is no good.



from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...








----- Original Message ----- 
From: "arielaretziel" <arielaretziel@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 5:58 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: It's not who in 1975, but what/Islam



Getting to the roots of Modern Theosophy, HPB has plainly overlooked the
religion of Islam in all her writings and you find scant references to it i=
n her
Collected writings. This was later "corrected" by Annie Besant who seemed t=
o
have little more to say. But the reality was there were few Islamic members=
and
fewer Theosophist who ever bothered to study or take an interest Islam. It =

doesn't mean that the Perenial Wisdom cannot be found there as well. Perhap=
s
you are the man to do it?


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hallo Christina and all of you,
>
> My views are:
> This link http://www.serve.com/herrmann/bailey.htm (use a small "b" in
> Bailey)
>
> Has as I see it the problem, that it concludes that the Muslims will
> gladly follow these Bailey teachings - as if they have found a new Bible.=

> I think this is wrong.
> There are way to few Muslims in any Bailey group as far as I am aware of.=

> The reason is simply this:
> "We have heard that Brahmanism is the last great religion which arose und=
er
> first ray influence; we do not know what may have been the religion which=

> was the outcome of the last second ray period; but the Chaldean, the
> Egyptian and the Zoroastrian religions may be taken as representing the
> third, the fourth, and the fifth rays respectively. Christianity and
> probably Buddhism were the result of sixth ray influence. Mohammedanism,
> which numbers so large a following, is also under sixth ray influence, bu=
t
> it is not a great root religion, being a hybrid offshoot of Christianity
> with the tinge of Judaism."
> Esoteric Psychology vol1., page 167-8.
>
> --- The message basically read like this: No support for the hybrid
> offshoots ---
> --- And what happens to the Middle east these days ? ---
> --- What level of influence has the Great Invocation á la Bailey kind ---=

> --- upon the millions of "hybrid offshoots" in the Middle East ??? ---
>
> I find these sentences by Alice A. Bailey highly problematic if not just
> plainly bad.
>
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:00 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: It's not who in 1975, but what
>
>
> > Hallo there,
> > Look at http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Alice-Bailey.htm
> > and
> > http://www.serve.com/herrmann/Bailey.htm
> >
> > and you see enough.
> > Bye Christina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "netemara888" <netemara888@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > DK takes great pains to describe that there will be breakthroughs
> > > beginning in 1975 which will comprise the next generation of
> > > spiritual teachings. It will not happen in that year, but is a long
> > > process which will begin in 1975. One thing which began is a type
> > of
> > > psychic opening to greater spiritual channels. These channels are
> > > the who. I don't mean channeling a master or that but spiritual
> > > channels which will be open on the inside of each aspirant who is
> > > nearing the final-four lives.
> > >
> > > Yes, just as RS talks about the last four lives which will come as
> > a
> > > culmination of long lives past spent in meditation so does DK. So
> > > what we will be experiencing, reading about, seeking will be that
> > > opening wider of the door between the Hierarchy and Humanity. And
> > > where will it manifest? I believe that it will manifest in a series
> > > of revelations (as AAB describes) but they will be about the higher
> > > realms of meditation and its fruits. That is my take on the subject.
> > >
> > > Namaste
> > >
> > > Netemara
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/term=
s/
> >
> >




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