Theos-Talk Archives (November 2003 Message tt00216)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hallo Netemara and all of you,
> ¨
> My views are:
> 
> Why not add, that Alice A. Bailey's Lucis Trust and many of its 
various
> branches are just as dead.

It is the Bailey trust which holds a great deal of influence over 
the U.N. whether you realize this or not I don't know.

Those groups and their relations to the Middle
> Eastern audiences are in a bad shape when we talk year 2003.
> 
> Just one example is this:
> 
> "Mohammedanism, which numbers so large a following, is also under 
sixth ray
> influence, but it is not a great root religion, being a hybrid 
offshoot of
> Christianity with the tinge of Judaism."
> Esoteric Psychology vol.1, page 167-8 should tell its tale.
> http://beaskund.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/psychology1/psyc1050.html
>

Yes, that's true based on my research about its foundation.
 
> Promoting the above view is not theosophical.
> Christianity is just as well a hybrid offshoot of the Jews 
religion. Just
> look at the present activitites
> in those countries. Narcotics, drugs, alchohol, gambling, the mind 
of the
> conquerers and all kinds of bad thought-patterns.
> 
> The Lucis Trust teaching are not suited for a Middle Eastern 
audience and
> the Bailey books never will be suited in such a manner.

But how do you know? That would take prescience or knowledge of the 
far future, do you possess this? I do, and I say you are wrong.

> Netemara - please rethink your stated position.
> 
> As for theosophy. It is not only TS or Lucis Trust and their 
various
> offshoots - when following a dead-letter view on what the Wisdom 
Tradition
> really is.

I don't understand the above statement.

And it is not my view completely. It is stated in the Bailey books 
but I have confirmed it by becoming a member and being involved in 
many of the major organizations such as Unity for example. I wish it 
were not true that The Theosophical Society as an evolutionary 
vehicle is dead, but it is. That does not make it worthless, just 
that it needs adjunctive links to make it viable for a spiritual-
minded person. 

Namaste

Netemara

> 
> 
> The following could very well be contemplated - as the time closes 
in and
> the upcoming shift in the relations between religion and politics
> in our present information society will come true internationally.
> 
> The wisdom tradition follows this view:
> It will deal with everyone according to capacity and character,
> being neither benevolent nor the reverse: for kindness and cruelty,
> while effective and understood in ordinary relationships, operate 
as
> part of a conditioning system within a teaching or group situation.
> 
> 
> The western worlds negation of religion (i.e a negation of anythig 
but
> Christianity or Christianity-related views)
> will NOT continue.
> The Middle Eastern countries and The Eastern countries will make 
their -
> true religious presence felt in our informations society, and not 
only the
> small fractions of the present day terrorism.
> 
> Things will happen at the United Nations.
> It will of course take its time.
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Katinka Hesselink" <k.hesselink@h...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:37 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: What about the VISIT made to the Golden 
Temple
> 
> 
> > Hi Nemeta,
> >
> > I am curious, what does Bailey say the spiritual function of the 
TS is
> > supposed to be?
> >
> > Katinka
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "netemara888" 
<netemara888@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > What does that have to do with the TS today? Well, according to
> > > Alice Bailey, the TS as a spiritual organ is now defunct, dead,
> > > over. And if you go to TS meetings around the country, you 
will find
> > > that it has an aura much like the moon, something is missing, 
and
> > > it's not just Netemara who finds this. Sure there are some 
meetings
> > > which may have a good number of people and meetings, but as an
> > > evolutionary role and spiritual organ the bataan (sp) or 
Dharma has
> > > been passed on to its successor.
> > >
> > > Netemara
> >
> >
> >
> >
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