Theos-Talk Archives (November 2003 Message tt00045)

Nov 5 2003

Re: STRING THEORY

Dear Friends:

Very interesting program and followed up by another (last night) on the
series  
	
THE ELEGANT UNIVERSE [PBS NOVA]

As I see it, using Theosophy as a basis for viewing the information
given, the problem is it attempts to define still dimly perceived
metaphysical facts and theories in terms of physical knowledge and
mathematical speculation.  

Our "Science" measures all things, and reports on the effect of forces
impinging on what it views as "stable" objects [Yet we all know this
stability is only apparent, just as the blades of a moving fan offer
resistance to a finger, but allow some light and air molecules to pass
through, etc...]

These observations and theories made, seem to be based on the area of
purely (our tangible reality -- is a rather gross approximation to the
truth of things). To me, physical related thoughts and known
(remembered) sensations are all approximations. We (in our usable,
practical science/technology) measure the "means," and "curves," and
"plot the graphs," of the results of experimental encounters. Of course
only those are tangible to us, and to most thinkers. We are limited by
the range of our common lower mind experiences, and we have adopted from
those our strictures of materialism. 

If we are able to perceive the range potential of the "Higher Mind,"
then these "theories" get resolved by the purposive thrust of all in the
Universe, -- a diversified, yet also, a unified host of MONADS all
working together under very rigid and exact laws of physics, electrics,
and MORALITY -- in cooperative endeavors (yet each in its own way).
And this structure and movement has been in existence, and "alive," for
uncounted years. 

Ours is a living and not a dead or static universe. Perhaps one of the
faults of the "string theory" is that it tends to reduce motion and
purpose to rigid stillness. Which is impossible, as all phenomena are
transient.  

We measure the effect of forces on "constructed forms." 

We need to ask: How did the form arise? What was its past? What is
its purpose? What will become of it? What will we do with the
knowledge we are acquiring about the imponderables? 

Finally: What will "string theory" decide? Remember, we are studying a
universe full of phenomena that are already orderly, coherent and
life-supporting. A "snap-shot" of any particular condition is already
"history." What of the future? How does it pass through the "present,"
and become lour "past?" 

But the mathematicians would probably call this "philosophy." And, in
their compartmented view, this has to be excluded from pure mathematical
consideration. 

I would hazard a guess that only the introduction of philosophical
reasoning and causality will help to ultimately resolve this. A pure
mathematical expression would then probably have to include symbols for
infinity, purpose, immortality, and an "ideal but common goal." Also
there can be no "dust heap" (or cemeteries) for discarded living,
immortal monads !

I would also observe that at this level on the surface of our earth,
"gravity" appears a "weak force." But if we take it down to (to us) the
atomic and sub-atomic level, where distances are indeed "short," this
force would be enormous, And, it then would be commensurate with other
forces that keep the physical appearance of reality stable (It does move
and change all the time -- so we are forced to posit an "astral
electro-magnetic" lattice work, or basis on which "physical" units and
phenomena manifest. 

To our physical perceptions, the marvel of inter-related actions and
diversity, the effects that follow cause that are know, are then also
confronted with what seem to be accidents or chance (and "luck") effects
-- due to our inability yet, to perceive the forces of the individual
INDESTRUCTIBLE MONADS as they pursue their regulated courses in a
conjoint evolutionary purpose (defined by some as Spiritual Perfection.)

The utter and compete sensitivity of the UNIVERSE where each individual
MONAD (vibrating string ?) is allowed leeway to live and evolve (both
individually and in the company of others of like structure and intent)
is a fact that Theosophical philosophy recognizes and places as a basic
thesis for explaining the HISTORY of the Universe and its present
phases. 

Theosophy opens the mind to considerations that include the beginning of
universes (and ours as a reincarnation of an earlier one) and their
probable goal. It also includes the question of growth in INTELLIGENCE
as consciousness wends its way through the almost infinite fields of
experience.

If one goes through the SECRET DOCTRINE the structure of the universe is
shown to depend on two basic things.

1	the indestructibility of the MONAD (ATMA-BUDDHI) where spirit
and matter are united and PERCEIVED BY MIND.

2.	KARMA which the interactions of a moral quality produced and
produce now.

This causes re-creation and re-incarnation.

Perhaps this may prove of some help,

Best wishes,

Dallas

PS I notice in this presentation that Dr. Penrose was not present, nor
were his views expressed. I wonder what they are.

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-----Original Message-----
From: samblo@cs.com [mailto:samblo@cs.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:20 AM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World re Leon's ABC's, String Theory, Theosophy

Leon,
Last night on PBS Nova I watched a very well done Program on
"String 
Theory."
As i watched it i ondered if you had caught ity where you are and 
thought how
must have enjoyed it.
John


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