Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00412)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Mauri <mhart@i...> wrote:
> Didn't the Nazis do something like "pray to 
> God" for a victory, or something, at some 
> point ... So one might wonder if Eugenio 
> Pacelli might've conducted that service, 
> among other things, with blinkers on ...

It must have been quite a set of blinkers given the scale of 
oppression Hitler unleashed. He would have to have been coompletely 
out of touch with reality. I don't think that is the xcorrect 
explanation.

No one can change the past, so if his successors had disowned him as 
an embarrassment I would regard the incident differently than I do 
given the fact they are canonizing him. That is no just an 
endorsement. The ringing is deafening.

> Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Hitler was 
> nevertheless basically atheistic, didn't much 
> care for any "Higher Wisdom" that didn't fit 
> in with his ideas about Nazism. But I don't 
> know if he had inherited some kind of RC 
> background

Hitler was an RC, believed his mission was the work of Providence, 
attributed his repeated survival of assassination attempts to divine 
intervention, and expected Allied armies to be stopped by a miracle 
when his regime was crumbling. SS men were required to be atheists 
(the German word was Gottglauben, which literally means believer in 
God) but the high honchos were required to put in an appearance in 
church every Sunday. The reason was probably that RC and Lutheran 
antiSemitism laid the foundation for Nazism ad was useful to Hitler 
and his cronies. Martin Luther was a rabid antiSemite. a fctwhich 
has been carefully covered up by the modern Lutheran Church.

Many, many years ago I was told sternly that I must "believe" Hitler, 
being a Christan, was in heaven and that saints such as Gandhi, who 
were not Christians, were in hell, else I could not consider myself a 
Christian. I was of course unable to accept such an absurd udea and 
since have not considered myself a Christian. More recently I have 
seen that the notion that there is any justice in the world seems 
absurd, and the dogma I rejected now seems at least credible if not 
probable.