Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00178)

I am quite sure that Dion Fortune had connection with
Wadia. I remeber the period I was working in Adyar at
the International Arquives, to have seen some letters
of Dion Fortune, but I didn't pay much attention, so I
can't remeber for whom was addressed. :(

Erica Letzerich

--- krishtar_a <krishtar_a@brturbo.com> wrote:
> Hi
> All i know is that in 1904, Mr. B.P. Wadia joined
> the Bombay section of the TS, becoming an active
> member of the so called branch and in 1907 he left
> Mumbay and went to Madras.
> I also know the founder of ULT was Mr. Crosby so
> Fortuneīs statements may not be related to ULT
> foundation by B P Wadia.
> She might have been puzzled.
> Dallas is a " Wadia expert " and cannot be wrong,
> yes?
> By 1900 Wadia couldīnt de founding a ULT anywere
> because he was just a recent member.
> 
> Krishtar
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: W. Dallas TenBreoeck 
> To: AA-BN--Study 
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:21 PM
> Subject: Theos-World RE: Statements about B.P.
> Wadia "in touch with the Himalayan Masters"
> 
> 
> Oct 16 2003
> 
> Dear Daniel:
> 
> I can not recall Mr. Wadia mentioning "Dion
> Fortune" to me.
> 
> Re: Statements about B.P. Wadia "in touch with the
> Himalayan Masters" [by Dion Fortune in magazine,
> "INNER LIGHT" July , 1936, p. 188 ]
> 
> What D. Fortune writes of observations concerning
> Mr. Wadia is not
> according to what I heard and wrote about (as you
> quote me rightly).
> 
> He did not found the U L T. Robert Crosbie did,
> in 1909.
> 
> Mr. Wadia first encountered the U L T in 1919/20
> in Hollywood when he
> was then on tour in the US and was lecturing at
> the Krotona Branch of
> the THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY.
> 
> Other than the contacts he mentions with Masters
> and HPB (that I
> reported on) I did not hear of others.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Dallas
> 
> ==============================
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel H. Caldwell
> [mailto:danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:44 AM
> To: .Daniel H. Caldwell
> Subject: Statements about B.P. Wadia "in touch
> with the Himalayan
> Masters"
> 
> Statements about B.P. Wadia "in touch with the
> Himalayan Masters" 
> 
> While researching a topic in the Mahatma Letters
> today, I accidently ran across this statement by
> Dion
> Fortune:
> 
> "When Mr. Wadia, once a worker at Adyar, and later
> founder [???] of the United Lodge of Theosophists,
> was
> in England shortly after the War [1919 ???] ,
> trying
> to make a start with his scheme, he gathered
> together
> a small group of people, of whom I was one, and
> put us
> in touch with the Himalayan Masters. For what my
> testimony is worth, I can vouch for the
> genuineness of
> those contacts; I certainly got in touch with
> something; but although it was not evil, it was to
> me
> alien and unsympathetic, and it seemed to me that
> it
> was hostile to my race, but that is another story.
> 
> Anyway, the rapport soon came to an end so far as
> I
> was concerned. Whether I was cast out, or walked
> out,
> I cannot be certain, anyway, the parting was
> simultaneous and by mutual consent."
> Quoted from INNER LIGHT, July, 1936, p. 188
> 
> I repeat the main point of Fortune's statment:
> 
> Wadia "gathered together a small group of people,
> of
> whom I was one, and put us in touch with the
> Himalayan
> Masters."
> 
> Before one completely dismisses the statement by
> Fortune, one might also consider the above in
> relation
> to what Dallas Tenbroeck writes in "B. P. Wadia -
> A
> Life of Service to Mankind." See the three
> extracts
> below: 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> In 1907 BPW mentioned sailing out 7 miles into the
> harbor of Bombay to see Elephanta, the famed
> ancient
> temple, said to be over 350,000 years old
> constructed
> from the living rock of the island when Rama was
> then
> the King of India. Ages ago, a gigantic stone
> statue
> of the Trimurthi: Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva, had been
> carved
> out of the rock of the island and around it a
> cavern
> had been chiseled so that a space of about an acre
> under stone formed the monument. It was for that
> reason the Portuguese named it Elephanta, because
> of
> the huge stone elephants that decorated the
> approaches
> to the cave. At his death-bed he spoke of this
> cave to
> several friends, saying that it was there that he
> had
> a "vision," and held a dialog with the "Master" at
> the
> "Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva Cave."
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/his/dtb_2.htm
> 
> Later, in conversing with some friends, B. P.
> Wadia
> mentioned that he had a vision in Adyar on
> November
> 21st 1918 of H.P. Blavatsky. He said that vision,
> and
> the earlier one in 1907 of the Master ( at
> Elephanta )
> had inspired and energized his whole life with the
> certainty of Their reality and continued
> existence,
> and the power and worth of Theosophy as a living
> and
> practical philosophy of daily life. 
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/his/dtb_2.htm
> 
> August 20th 1958, early in the pre-dawn of
> Bangalore,
> the intimate friends of Mr. Wadia were called to
> assemble around him, He was dying . The time was
> 2.20
> a.m. He knew that he was approaching death and
> desired
> to speak to them of the future. 
> 
> He spoke of the changes that the cycles had
> brought to
> him. He reviewed some past incidents in his life.
> His
> first meeting with the Master in the
> "Brahma-Vishnu-Siva Cave" in 1907; his vision of
> HPB
> early during his stay in Adyar (November 18th
> 1918),
> which two events he said had inspired his life. 
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/his/dtb_2b.htm
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I'm wondering if Dallas or some other person can
> throw
> any further light on Fortune's statement.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> =====
> Daniel H. Caldwell
> BLAVATSKY STUDY CENTER/BLAVATSKY ARCHIVES
> 
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