Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00000)

Wednesday, October 01, 2003

Dear Friend:

Lawmaking as I understand it in the ordinary way, relates to fairness,
and brotherhood in application.  

>From the Theosophical point of view this includes the immortal Soul and
its successive reincarnations and KARMA as the UNIVERSAL LAW that
operates equally for everyone regardless of religion or politics, race,
or location on earth.

The conditions you relate (DNA ownership, Islam, state-hood, a common
currency, common laws, etc...) already is in operation in the spiritual
sense. This is an attempt to create a similar situation on the physical
plane and it has its faults as well as successes. 

It makes a great deal of difference to the extremist, or bigot whether
in politics or religion. For the average citizen, he really does not
care who governs, so long as no unfair practices are arbitrarily imposed
on him or her. 

Spiritual morality and ethics are superior to and the root of physical
ethics and morality. In every person there resides the ONE SELF. It is
this spiritual entity that is sensitive to any and all injustices. It is
this innate sense of justice that allows a citizen of any country to
enter another, and if well intentioned, permits them to travel
unrestricted with amity and goodwill to the nations he visits.

Whenever there is any resistance to impersonal and universal laws one
may be sure there lurks injustice, immorality and evil. These run
contrary to the laws of growth and brotherhood.

As to "Islam" and its presumed dangers. Have those who make this outcry
studied the Koran? No one ought to voice prejudice. Without some
familiarity with the subject, no opinions ought to be offered. Laziness
and ignorance are thus taken advantage of by those who find advantage in
isolation. Truth demands study and work. Then fairness emerges. This
fairness is based on Universal Brotherhood. And that is Theosophy.



-----Original Message-----
From: Morten Nymann Olesen [mailto:global-theosophy@adslhome.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 4:28 AM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World DNA, -THIRD-? and genetic-engeneering...

Hi all of you,


Time is running.

I have a few question.
Maybe some of you will help me and others who are interested in this
issue.

The reason for asking the following - should be viewed as an offshoot of
the now ongoing debate in Denmark on 

A--- Whether the mere level of INTELLIGENCE should be a reason for
lawmaking encouraging certain groups within the population to multiply
(giving them money or something else) and perhaps encouraging other
groups to keep their birthrate or multiplication down (by tax-release or
other measures). This debate was create by a danish researcher and
professor. (Bangladesh have tried the idea in lawmaking - but had to
abandon it because of pressure from the population.)
B--- The proposal by some of the law makers to create registration of
DNA for - all - the population.

The last issue has the recent days made a great number of - concerned
citizens phone the particular Governmental - Institute, which has a
stock of bloodsamples from various citizens available dating from at
least the year 1981 and forward. It is these bloodsamples, which the
government eventually will use in crime research - and maybe research on
terrorism. The danish citizens have by law the right to claim these
bloodsamples returned to themselves if they so choose. 
This happens - few months before the Danish population has to vote for
EU-membership and eventually the new constitution - which is by some
said to almost turn EU into a State similar to the - present - German
one. Atr least there is a pattern.
There will be a kind of presidential post created in the new EU, and the
foreign-minister of EU will now - become a kind of real States
foreignminister of EU. All countries will have the same coin and
national bank - as some countries already have.
One end of the political corner cries "Islam is dangerous, don't let to
many foreigners into your countries." The other end says let them come.
Some sort of says let them come - we have a law which are ready to treat
them as they "deserve" - and the like.

MO
1. What have Blavatsky primarily and also other theosophists written
about the issue - the THIRD rootrace and the creation of the sexes ?

(I think Dallas, Caldwell or someone else might have access to an short
clear overview on this issue.)


DTB >>>>	Read the SECRET DOCTRINE Vol. I pp. 415-6, 150fn, II
2-3, 84, 119, 132-5, 165-7, 173-4, 182, 191-2, 197-8,217, 275,
411, 415

>>>>	3rd Root Race: S D II 132, 135, 147, 177, 248, 715fn

MO
2. How can this be related to present day science ?


DTB >>>>	It cannot because the original process was one directed
by Karma. Our present work with DNA is only physiological and the
original was ASTRAL under the guidance of Karma and the energy
centers resident in PRANA / JIVA.  

MO
3. Where are we going in the near future ?


DTB >>>>	Probably in the wrong direction, as the physiology does
not guide or antecede the astral and the pranic currents and energies.
If you inquire into the experimental efforts you will find out that very
few attempts are successful. Most are failures.


MO
4. Will we witness tampering with DNA registration and missue by
Intelligence Agencies and other groups and agencies around the globe ? 
And DNA- terrorism ?
And where will that lead us ?


DTB >>>>	Into confusion, for the above reasons -- a lack of more
fundamental knowledge about the source of material forms.


MO
5. Will the ancient tampering with DNA revoke a karmic circle, where
various kinds of "DNA-monsters" attracted because of fear or because
greed for power will walk in the streets ?


DTB >>>>	Probably the Atlantean "sorcerers" (some of us in that
Race, long ago) who misused natures' laws for personal benefit (sorcery)
made far serious blunders as a knowledge of the astral and the pranic
forces was available then. These days our Science has rejected those
more subtle forces and knows little if anything about them.

For instance, can our science tell us why anything, say a crystal, or an
egg has a definite constitution and conformity to laws? They make
surmises, but those are mainly opinions and speculations, theories and
hypotheses. They are not a definite knowledge of the secret magnetic
and electrical Laws (in the astral form) that underlie every physical
form without exception. They do not realize that all physical matter is
a condensation of the astral. Another example: How is the healing of a
wound explained? How do medicines actually work well on some persons
and not well on others. How many physicians really know the subtle
psychic nature of their patients, and their astral and pranic condition?



MO
6. How much tampering with DNA happened during the THIRD rootrace and
also the FOURTH rootrace ?


DTB >>>>	NO tampering. Nature guided the changes. Mankind and
nature will bring in the future an end to the sexual differences in the
forms we use, says the SECRET DOCTRINE .


MO
7. How will Theosophy relate to this issue of DNA registration in the
future ?
What is the policy of the different theosophical or related groups ?


DTB >>>>	Common sense -- it does not really matter.


MO
(The Jews was strangely enough called an "artificial race" by Blavatsky
(SD vol. II, p. 571), and said to be only about 8.000 years old.)


DTB >>>> HPB in SECRET DOCTRINE says the Jews are a part of the
Semitic group. It is an Aryan race born in India S D I 313fn; II
200, 471fn.
[see S D INDEX for more details]


MO
I think, that these questions are important to ask in the present age,
where DNA-cloning, Genetic-engineering, Nano-Techology, Bio-technology,
Internet-interactivity, Cyborgs, Wireless-communication (by satellite -
Europes latest trick) and the like --- are coming high on the political
and spiritual agendas !


And please don't reject this question: What is your own position on
these issues?


DTB >>>>	SEE THE ABOVE.



from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...


Best wishes,

Dallas
 

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