Theos-Talk Archives (August 2003 Message tt00094)

Tuesday, August 19, 2003

Re MARS == Epoch of Mahabharata War


Dear L M and Adelasie and friends:


Re: MAHABHARATA WAR

Historically it is said to have occurred just before the death of
Krishna-avatar of Vishnu. At that moment the present, it is
stated in The SECRET DOCTRINE , the KALI YUGA began.


The date given to this death was 3,102 BC [ SECRET DOCTRINE I
662-3; II 435]

Re: Mars

The following might prove to be of interest, as points of study
and integration of information:
(with the help of INDEX to S D by John van Mater THEOSOPHICAL
UNIVERSITY PRESS) DTB

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MARS

>From The SECRET DOCTRINE [Index - John van Mater]


Mars (the god). See also Karttikeya
Artes, Aretia or II 143n
born fr Juno, w no father II 550
born fr no woman II 125n
Cain personifies II 390-2
Ertosi, Earth & II 143-4n
generative powers symbol II 43n, 390, 467
heptad sacred to II 602
is Karttikeya II 619
names, functions of II 382, 390-3, 392n
Pistis Sophia on II 462
Sabao (Gnostic) II 538n
Mars (the planet). See also Karttikeya (below)
adept knowledge of II 699
conjunction of, w Saturn & Jupiter I 656, 662
day of, almost same as on Earth II 707
density of inhabitants (Kant) I 602-3
does not belong to our chain I 164
error concerning, & Mercury I 163-70
genius of I 577; II 538n
Hindu Mangala is II 124n
judicial astrology & I 575n
men of, ethereal I 602
Mercury, Venus &, lower triad II 462
in obscuration I 165
planetary chain I 164-5
red in color II 43n, 124-5n
satellites of I 165
secret relation of, to Earth I 163-4
Semele presides betw, & Venus I 400
six-faced planet II 382
Sun, ether, & I 102-3
superior globes of, invisible I 153
"tone" of II 601
Virtues rule I 435
water on, solid (Williams) II 136n

Karttikeya (Skt). See also Mars, Michael
Apollo & II 383
born of sweat & earth II 43n, 124-5n
born to kill Taraka II 383
born without woman II 43n, 125n, 550, 619
described & explained II 381-2, 549-50, 619
head of rudras II 106
a kumara II 383, 549, 619
Mars identical w II 43n, 124n, 382, 549, 619
Michael &, compared II 382n, 549
Pleiades nurses of II 549, 551, 619
six-faced Mars II 382
six heads of II 551
war god II 124n
Karttikeya (Skt). See also Mars, Michael
Apollo & II 383
born of sweat & earth II 43n, 124-5n
born to kill Taraka II 383
born without woman II 43n, 125n, 550, 619
described & explained II 381-2, 549-50, 619
head of rudras II 106
a kumara II 383, 549, 619
Mars identical w II 43n, 124n, 382, 549, 619
Michael &, compared II 382n, 549
Pleiades nurses of II 549, 551, 619
six-faced Mars II 382
six heads of II 551
war god II 124n

Michael. See also Archangels, Mikael
angel guardian of Christ II 478
Anubis & II 385-6
Apollo & II 383
archangel I 42; II 229n, 479
called God in Talmud II 478
Christ or I 195n; II 114, 115n
conquered dragon (Satan) II 94n, 378, 382n, 384-5, 479, 505
dared not speak against Satan II 478
denounced fallen angels II 382n
discussed I 458-60; II 478-81
divine rebel II 246
divine Titan (de Mirville) I 418
elohim, one of I 42; II 379
Fall & II 62-3, 238n, 246, 248, 382n, 508
Hermes Christos (Gnostics) II 481
Indra the Hindu II 378, 384, 498, 614
influenced by neshamah II 378
-Jehovah Lord of Hebrews II 538
Karttikeya compared to II 382n, 549
kumara I 458-60; II 549
Ophite lion or I 127n
praying to I 611
presides over Saturn I 459
refused to create I 88, 458-9; II 94n
represents Jehovah II 62-3, 379, 508
Revelation on I 194
St George earthly copy of I 458
Samael, Satan or II 378
Sanaka prototype of I 372 &n
Seraphim (de Mirville) II 479
slayer of Apophis I 459
slayer of dragon's angels II 498
terrestrial wisdom or II 378
unmanifested, free, virginal II 235, 238n
various names for I 459-60; II 379, 480-1
war of, w dragon I 202
watched over promontories I 42; II 505
went before Jews (Exodus) I 437

Archangel(s). See also Dhyan-chohans, Michael
abode of, in seven great stars II 455n
among highest deities I 116n
Amshaspends or, (Burnouf) I 437
anthropomorphous II 377
architects I 16 &n
archontes &, (Iamblichus) I 235
Christians call moon I 394
concept of, fr India II 584
conspire against fallen angels II 382n
dhyani(-chohans) II 22, 242
doubles of I 235 &n
elements stand for I 339
first, called Lux (Lucifer) I 70-1
first differentiated egos II 242
Gabriel & lilies, lotus I 379n, 384; II 472
man compared w I 236, 277
Mercury ruled by I 435
Michael highest I 88, 437; II 94n
Milton q I 622
preside over constellations I 638
primordial flame I 88
rebellion of, as Fall II 62-3, 94n, 246
refused to create I 88; II 246
rule second world of Syrians I 435
saptarishis or I 198
Satan the I 414; II 60
seven, or Virtues of God I 438
"Seven Spirits of the Face" II 115n
seven sublime lords I 42
sons of dark wisdom II 248
theological interpretation II 377
various equivalents of I 437
virgin-angels among II 246
wanted man to become a god II 246
work of II 242
Dhyana (Skt)
abstract meditation I 572; II 116
Tibetan yoga II 116
Dhyani-buddha(s) (Skt). See also Dhyanichohans, Dhyanis
aggregate of, as Avalokitesvara/Kwan-shi-yin I 471-2
angel of a star I 573
anupadaka [aupapaduka] or I 52, 109, 571
ascent of soul & I 17
bodhisattvas human aspect of I 42
cannot reach Alaya's essence I 48
create w dhyana II 116
dhyani-bodhisattvas fr I 109; II 116
Dzyu collective wisdom of I 108
five, or panchasya I 213
furnished races w divine kings I 267
human monad part of a I 573
informing intelligences II 34
One becomes many or I 113
one for each round I 42
one w Alaya during life-period I 48
pi, circle & I 114
on primordial matter I 69
prototypes of buddhas on Earth I 108
seven I 571-2
seven, five have manifested I 108
sources of revelation I 10
twin-souls & I 574
two higher groups of I 267
various names for I 114, 571
Dhyani-chohan(s). See also Angels, Archangels, Architects,
Builders, Dhyani-buddhas, Dhyanis, Elohim, Planetary Spirits
Absolute beyond grasp of highest I 51
agents of cosmic law I 274-5
aggregate of, Divine Intelligence I 452, 471-2, 595, 604
Ah-hi (dhyani-buddhic) parinishpanna I 53
Aletae, Lares, Kabiri or II 360-1, 393
Amshaspends II 358, 365-6
angels I 222n, 226, 274, 611
anupadaka [aupapaduka] & I 52
architects of visible world I 16
astral man reflection of II 170
boughs of Hiranyagarbha I 406
builders & watchers I 233
can do better than initiates I 234-5
Chenresi II 178
clothed in souls, atoms I 619
conscious, intelligent powers I 93
cosmic, cause terrestrial phenomena I 604
cosmic, dual host of beings I 604
cosmic mind & law are I 278, 579n, 595
create man & world II 242, 510
Deity's incarnated beams II 584
devas I 288n; II 307
direct causative agents of man I 229-30
do not fully remember former cosmos II 310
do not pass thru lower kingdoms I 188
dual nature of hosts of I 280
elements stand for I 339, 372-3 &n
elohim II 37
endow man w self-consciousness II 232-3n
esoteric hierarchy of II 465
evolved first races II 307, 365-6
failures among I 188; II 232-3n
first group of I 197
forbidden fruit & II 267
form manifested Verbum I 278
four arms of II 179
four classes of II 60, 102
four Maharajas kings of I 122
four primal natures of I 82
four suns of life & II 239
guide elemental forces I 277-8
Hermetic daimones, genii I 288n
hierarchy of, & 31415 I 90, 93
higher creative, or Demiurgos I 110
highest, know solar system II 700n
Host, Elohim, Jehovah or II 510
incarnate in man I 188, 295n; II 92
invisible deity I 114
karmic agents I 274, 278
Keely under class of I 559
Kwan-shi-yin aggregate of I 471
made worlds fr primary stuff I 598n
manifest divine thought & will I 38
manifested theogony I 434
man's seven principles & I 226-7
manus or I 452; II 308-9, 365-6
manvantaric emanations of Logos I 429
man will merge into his I 265
man needs two rounds to become II 257
men fr other manvantaras I 277
minor logoi or elohim II 37
nature's guiding intelligences I 146, 277-8
never-resting breaths I 103
in nirvana during pralaya I 116n
not perfect or to be worshiped I 280
objective universe built on I 375
ophanim ['ophannim] or I 92, 337
pass thru Circle of Necessity II 303
planetary spirits I 635
popular description of II 178-9
populations of, in other worlds I 583n
preside over constellations I 638
primordial mind or I 52
races, rounds, & I 42, 233, 442, 573 &n
reflect universal ideation I 280
refused to create II 246
rupa, arupa I 197; II 318n
septenary groups of I 573-4; II 361
seven primordial sages II 267n
seven rays fr Logos I 130, 573
seven rupa classes of II 318n
sixfold, minus physical I 222n, 235
six hierarchies of, & saktis I 292-3
sources of revelation I 10
substance of I 289-90
three lords or II 212
various names for I 42, 375; II 90, 365-6
wanted man to become a god II 246
Dhyan-chohanic
buddhi part & parcel of, essence I 265
consciousness & manifested Logos I 573
essence & evolution II 108, 120
evolution guided by, thought II 649 &n
first men projected by seven, centers II 732
heart of the, body II 91
impulse &, Lamarck's law II 738
root of striving for perfection II 736

Dhyanis. See also Dhyani-buddhas, Dhyan-chohans, Pitris
angirasas, instructors II 605n
archangels II 22, 242
arhats, sages II 167
arupa, one-third were II 93
became Zoroastrian devs I 577
Chenresi Padmapani or II 178-9
displeased w rupas II 57
doomed to rebirth by karma II 93-4
dragons or adepts disciples of II 210
each kalpa has its own II 179
elohim II 2n
endowed third race w mind I 457 &n; II 47n, 165, 276, 318 &n
evolved bhutas for first race I 183
fire-, are agnishvattas II 91
form nursery for future adepts I 207
give man five inner principles I 227
guide evolution I 181
have to be atma-buddhi I 193
higher, not in physical creation II 80
incarnated at various times II 228
incarnated in empty shadows I 457 &n; II 487
kumaras I 456-7
lower order of, reigned over man I 266
lowest, or spirits of Earth I 224
lunar, first round globe D I 188
manasa-, gave mind to man I 181-2
men become I 276; II 257
men in Mazdean ark are II 291
middle principles of man & I 222
monsters slain by II 115
never travel beyond visible cosmos I 13, 116n
nirmanakayas fr other cycles II 93-4
pass thru human experience II 167
planets & II 29
projected shadows I 225; II 242-3
rays of wisdom II 191n
relation to principles II 29
of seven heavens II 273
seven orders of, & seven elements I 259
six principled I 224
spiritual fire & II 105
spiritual plasm & I 224
various names for I 222n
watch over rounds & races I 42


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Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: leon M
Sent:	Monday, August 18, 2003 11:21 PM
To:
Subject:	Re: a question for scholars/philosophers

Judging by the endless wars, with the threat of mass
extermination, that are
now proliferating all around the globe, the closeness of Mars
(known from
antiquity as the "planet of war") might be an astrological sign
that we are
entering a critical phase of human evolution which, perhaps,
reflects the great
Mahabarata war that may have taken place around 60 thousand years
ago (when Mars
was also close) during the last stages of the destruction of
Atlantis and the
beginnings of the new civilizations represented by the ancient
Chinese,
Egyptians, Brahmans, Mayans, Aztecs, etc. -- that scattered in
far distant places
around the world after that time. Does anyone have any
theosophical references
that might verify this possibility?
LHM
CUT