Theos-Talk Archives (July 2003 Message tt00225)

I didn't send this post particularly to your person. I think that this forum
is unique, I have found here many gems, it has been dedicated along very
particular lines, and I still don't see any point of marring it with
political debates. Political debates are always narrow, hence you can never
collect all factors involved - millions of people are actually involved, and
there is the always questions - who leads whom? The people lead the leader,
or the leader the people? The leader is a reflection of the mass
consciousness, a representative of major portion of humans who voted for
him, in the democratic system, or a dictator, who also represents a section
of the population. Both sides mirror each other, and usually they mirror
their own distortions. Humanity lost its way long, long time ago, sank into
the mud of illusion and in consequence creates suffering. If a person lives
in illusion, all that he can do is to create suffering. The only way to get
out of this viscious circle is through the spiritual path, and as far as I
can see till now, Theosophy do provide such a path. I know for myself,
independent of Theosophical sources, that Mme. Blavatsky was a true
messenger and her Masters were true as well. I cannot explain it or prove it
before a court of law, it is a personal issue. If you deny Theosophy all
together, which you clearly do, what do you want here? I am not claiming to
moderate this list, and opposition is most welcome, even needed. I simply
haven't seen what is your (personal) spiritual agenda. What have you brought
to enrich the spiritual discussions here?
Maybe it disaapoints you that I keep good relations with Arabs, as I am
trying to maintain with any other person. And many do this here. I don't
think that you know much about the inner conflicts between these nations,
besides what appears in the media; you have to live here, mesh with the
people. It goes back behind the mists of time, and nobody really knows who
takes key responsibility. It is a part of human play in illusion, which can
create only suffering. Best wishes, Etzion
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stevestubbs" <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Operation Hidden Agenda Playing Cards flr the
discriminating card player


> Hi, Etzion:
>
> ??? In theos?talk@yahoogroups.com, Etzion Becker <etvionbb@n...>
> wrote:
> > I am not interested with this issue.
>
> We will have to be sure to check things out with you before
> discussing anything in the future.
>
> ??? In theos?talk@yahoogroups.com, Etzion Becker <etvionbb@n...>
> wrote:
> > All this recent discussion erupted latent hatreds between the
> > people here
>
> I see no evidence of any hatred. I do not hate anyone and I don't
> think MOST of the other folks on this list do, either. There are two
> possible exceptions. Those who see hatred are perceiving the
> contents of their own consciousness.
>
> ??? In theos?talk@yahoogroups.com, Etzion Becker <etvionbb@n...>
> wrote:
> > why don't you enter China and start a
> > riot on the issue of the extermination of the Tibetan people as
> well as many
> > other peoples in China?
>
> I am disheartened by the Sinoization of the Tibetan people and
> culture, but the only place in the world outside sub Saharan Africa
> where there is talk of exterminating anyone is your own country. I
> refer of course to the "transfer" program, which proposes to
> exterminate or exile folks born in Palestine who were unfortunate
> enough to have been born Arab. That is especially worrisome since
> the fellow who organized massacres in Kivry, Sabra, Chatila, Jenin,
> and elsewhere is now in absolute power. Let us hope those with a
> higher ethical standard than he has prevail.
>
> ??? In theos?talk@yahoogroups.com, Etzion Becker <etvionbb@n...>
> wrote:
> > As if the *adepts* read these
> > discussions and pay heed to them.
>
> After reading THE MASTERS REVEALED by K. Paul Johnson I am having
> increasing doubts about the "adepts." K. Paul Johnson, as you know,
> is the most important writer on Theosophy ever and he says it is all
> garbage from beginning to end and top to bottom. I am not persuaded
> that Theosophy is all garbage but some of his arguments are
> compelling and I am no longer as sure of the existence of such beings
> as before. If there are any "adepts" you don't have to worry that
> they pay any mind to you or read any of your crap. They would surely
> have better things to do than snoop on us. This list would be of
> zero interest to them just as it is to almost everyone else in the
> world.
>
> So your concerns are unwarranted.
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