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Politics - Theosophy versus war and peace...

Jul 14, 2003 04:37 PM
by Morten Nymann Olesen


Hi all of you,


My views are only views:

Politics. Theosophy doesn't deal directly with it.
But Theosophy deals with it !
Just not on that level, but on a higher one !


The musicians and the psychologists are the new Priests in todays society.
The orthodox Priests won't find support in the nearest future, because of their need for authority. - An authorithy, which nobody or only very very few will support in the days to come. Those who survives - are just mere entertainers. Else it is social tribalism, 'tee and talk' which rules the show.
The weak politicians and the cultural imperialists are in general making trouble.
I will mention that some socalled offshot-theosophical groups even today are supporting cultural imperialism or bias. Often not knowing that, that is what they do.

To the theosophists - God is the same as Allah, ParaBrahman, Neti-Neti (not this, not that),
Ahura Mazd,...etc...


The following source, (which has nothing to do with the above comments) are not revealed at the beginning - unless someone else does so.
Later I will name the source. Some of you already know who the source is.

At least some of the text should help the readers to understand where it all will lead
in a near future to come - if no changes occurs.



Try the following - by me - somewhat altered quotes:



"And another reason that I'm happy to live in this period is that we have been forced to a point where we're going to have to grapple with the problems that men have been trying to grapple with through history, but the demand didn't force them to do it. Survival demands that we grapple with them. Men, for years now, have been talking about war and peace. But now, no longer can they just talk about it. It is no longer a choice between violence and nonviolence in this world; it's nonviolence or nonexistence.

That is where we are today."

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"Now, what does all of this mean in this great period of history? It means that we've got to stay together. We've got to stay together and maintain unity. You know, whenever Pharaoh wanted to prolong the period of slavery in Egypt, he had a favorite, favorite formula for doing it. What was that? He kept the salves fighting among themselves. But whenever the slaves get together, something happens in Pharaoh's court, and he cannot hold the slaves in slavery. When the slaves get together, that's the beginning of getting out of slavery. Now let us maintain unity."

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" We aren't going to let any mace stop us. We are masters in our nonviolent movement in disarming police forces; they don't know what to do, I've seen them so often."

. by the hundreds we would move out. And the politician would tell them to send the 'dogs' forth and they did come; but we just went before the 'dogs' singing, "Ain't gonna let nobody turn me round." The politician next would say, "Turn the fire hoses on." And as I said to you the other night, the politician didn't know history. He knew a kind of physics that somehow didn't relate to the transphysics that we knew about. And that was the fact that there was a certain kind of fire that no 'water' could put out. And we went before the fire hoses; we had known water.

"We don't have to argue with anybody. We don't have to curse and go around acting bad with our words. We don't need any bricks and bottles, we don't need any Molotov cocktails, we just need to go around to these stores, and to these massive industries in our country, and say, "God, the most higest - sent us by here, to say to you that you're not treating his children right. And we've come by here to ask you to make the first item on your agenda fair treatment, where God's children are concerned. Now, if you are not prepared to do that, we do have an agenda that we must follow. And our agenda calls for withdrawing economic support from you."

" Let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness. One day a man came to Jesus; and he wanted to raise some questions about some vital matters in life. At points, he wanted to trick Jesus, and show him that he knew a little more than Jesus knew, and through this, throw him off base. Now that question could have easily ended up in a philosophical and theological debate. But Jesus immediately pulled that question from mid-air, and placed it on a dangerous curve between Jerusalem and Jericho. And he talked about a certain man, who fell among thieves. You remember that a Levite and a priest passed by on the other side. They didn't stop to help him. And finally a man of another race came by. He got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy. But with him, administering first aid, and helped the man in need. Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the "I" into the "thou," and to be concerned about his brother. Now you know, we use our imagination a great deal to try to determine why the priest and the Levite didn't stop. At times we say they were busy going to church meetings-an religious gathering-and they had to get on down to Jerusalem so they wouldn't be late for their meeting. At other times we would speculate that there was a religious law that "One who was engaged in religious ceremonials was not to touch a human body twenty-four hours before the ceremony." And every now and then we begin to wonder whether maybe they were not going down to Jerusalem, or down to Jericho, rather to organize a "Jericho Road Improvement Association." That's a possibility. Maybe they felt that it was better to deal with the problem from the causal root, rather than to get bogged down with an individual effort.

But I'm going to tell you what my imagination tells me. It's possible that these men were afraid. You see, the Jericho road is a dangerous road."

"That's the question before you tonight. Not, "If I stop to help the citizens on this Planet, what will happen to all of the hours that I usually spend in my office every day and every week as a Seeker on the Path ?" The question is not, "If I stop to help this man in need, what will happen to me?" "If I do not stop to help the citizens on this Planet, what will happen to them?" That's the question.

Let us rise up tonight with a greater readiness. Let us stand with a greater determination. And let us move on in these powerful days, these days of challenge to make America and the Planet (and Berlin ?) what it ought to be. We have an opportunity to make America a better nation. And I want to thank God, once more, for allowing me to be here with you."





Is this Theosophy or is it not ?

Let us at least be allowed to develop a dangerous kind of unselfisness !

So when is the next march - protesting against the present United Nations Security Counsil ?
Who is going to speak, to who and where ?
And what will be said and why ?
How many will come and why not more ?

Will there be cultural bias or just cultural imperialism ?
Will it create social uplift ?


Is this our agenda - and did Blavatsky support this ?
Why are so many long time students of Theosophy still culturally conditioned ?



I ask a lot. But will any Theosophist answer ?



These where my views.

Feel free...





from

M. Sufilight with peace and love...


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