Theos-Talk Archives (July 2003 Message tt00141)

And to "suffer" is to ...

Speculatively,
Mauri

Bill Meredith wrote:
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> Hi Adelasie. Your writings are often inspirational.
> 
> I wish to offer the possibility that "worry" itself is an insidious form of
> suffering. So also, perhaps, are our "beliefs" based on our needful
> imaginings. To need is to suffer.
> 
> Bill
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "adelasie" <adelasie@surfari.net>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World re "Re: What Is Happening In America?" (addendum)
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> > Dear Leonardo,
> >
> > At first I thought this info was shocking. Then I started thinking
> > about some of the history of the Western world that I know of: Viking
> > marauders slaughtering families along the coast of Briton,
> > skulduggery and high political opportunism, with murder of opposition
> > by war or poisoning thrown in during the Italian Renaissance,
> > wholesale slaughter by any means, deception and destruction of the
> > Native American people by Western Europeans, and the list goes on.
> > Whatever lowdown black tactics are being used in politics these days,
> > (and I suspect it is the same everywhere, not just in the US) they
> > are nothing new.
> >
> > What I want to know is what do we do about it? Clearly things should
> > change. If we recognize the fact of reincarnation, we know that we
> > ourselves are the cyclic perpetrators of this generalized outrage
> > against Nature and its Law. And, of course, since we do not learn the
> > lessons, the payback keeps getting worse, the stakes get higher. Once
> > all we had to worry about was a bunch of guys with swords. Now we
> > have to worry about someone pushing a button which destroys a whole
> > city in an instant.
> >
> > We can take exception to your interpretation of the evidence it we
> > like. But whichever side we are on, whatever our point of view, we
> > come up with a whole lot of evidence that mankind is due for some
> > renovation of the heart. As far as I can see there is just no real
> > justification for making someone else suffer, period.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Adelasie
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13 Jul 2003 at 5:35, leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
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> > > Sure, if you consider that the Nazi style of government in Germany was
> > > run by a similar election swiping puppet that, in the beginning was
> > > sponsored by a "military industrial complex" financed by the Bush
> > > Family and their cohorts. (That, incidentally, Eisenhower knew was
> > > being planned by his right wing Republican "handlers" [right from the
> > > beginning of Hitler's "New World Order"] to be continuued in America
> > > after the defeat of Germany). Vide the more than 2000 ex SS people
> > > that were brought into this country after the war, some of whom are
> > > still linked with the CIA that Bush senior was once the boss of. This
> > > was one of the reasons why Ike, an honorable man, gave up trying to be
> > > an effective administrator in his second term (possibly in fear of his
> > > life) and spent most of his time playing golf after he warned us to
> > > beware of that M-I complex. All this was a known fact among many ex
> > > military intelligence and OSS-CIA people who knew the whole inside
> > > story but kept the secrets -- since, besides their secrecy oaths, it
> > > was a matter of life and death to publicly talk about what they knew.
> > > In fact one of my former OSS friends (the manager of Radio Free Europe
> > > during the war), a brave warrior and theosophist, died under
> > > suspicious circumstances in the mid 80's, and the book he was writing
> > > about the influence of Richard Nixon on the development of these plans
> > > (while he was general council for Bechtel Corp. and also Attorney for
> > > U.S. Office of Emergency Management (1942) , even while ostensibly
> > > serving as a Naval officer, and surreptitiously, as a military attache
> > > to Eisenhower's staff) mysteriously disappeared. (Besides myself,
> > > there were more than half a dozen former MI, OSS and CIA people at my
> > > friend's funeral who voiced equal suspicions about his death and the
> > > missing manuscripts -- which some of us had seen snippets of earlier
> > > or had contributed inside information for the writing of.) Did anyone
> > > ever wonder why Nixon was chosen as Eisenhower's running mate in 1952
> > > (after Truman backed down and was sent off to pasture)? If you search
> > > deep enough on the web, and are a trained intelligence gatherer, you
> > > can find many snippets of evidence that, together, tell this whole
> > > story of how the military industrial complex in America today was
> > > started in Germany with the international cartels set up after world
> > > war I -- with all the links funneled through Wall Street banking firms
> > > ostensibly controlled by Prescott Bush (Dubya's grandfather). For
> > > starters, you might look up the "Unauthorized Biography" of George
> > > Bush. As I said, where there's smoke, there's fire. Isn't the
> > > oligarchy that rules America today, and their links to Bechtel Corp.
> > > (that will get the major contracts for rebuilding Iraq, as they did
> > > Germany) as obvious as the nose on your face? And, who personally
> > > benefits by this endless and costly war in Iraq along with the tax
> > > cuts that Bush gave out when the country is suffering its worst
> > > deficit in its history? Wake up and smell the coffee. The Nazis
> > > haven't gone away. They just moved to the United States under the
> > > wing of our missile and space programs -- which are an integral part
> > > of the Military Industrial Complex (that, incidentally, also controls
> > > the pharmaceutical Industry that has been raping America and is the
> > > primary beneficiary of Bush's so called anti AIDS Program for Africa).
> > >
> > > Leonardo
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> > > > Bart
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