Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00264)

Hi. Thank you for putting this message out here, as it is a classic example
of the ancient and much ingrained practice called "self-titillation." More
comments below.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@adslhome.dk>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: Theos-World Writing and the like...


> Hi all of you,
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> Here is another little something...
>
>
> Writing
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> Some years back in time there lived a spiritual teacher somwhere near to
Northern Afghanistan. He seldom held meetings with his disciples. He always
communicated
> with them in writing.
> One could ask why he did that ?

Wry: Since it is most likely that you are making up that he did this, it is
probably an unfounded question, as all spiritual teachers that I know of
meet directly with their students if possible, as certain transmissions are
non-verbal, and without these, certain kinds of progression cannot take
place.

> Here is one answer to this question.
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> If you hav any experience of spiritual groups, you will
> know that too many people focus their attention on the teacher
> and not on the teaching. Indeed, this is such a frequent abuse that
> some people become completely fixated on the teacher, wheather
> tue or false.

Wry: The above is an example of confused thinking. No, people do not focus
on the teacher more than the teaching if he is a good teacher. The truth is
that people can become mesmerized by and fixated upon just about anything.
This is actually a key point.

> Even in the East, people mistake this phenomenon for sanctity,
> or for religious experience.
> Knowing this, many (or some) high in spirit Theosophists, do not teach
directly at all; much
> will depend upon the condition of their followers.

Wry: Why are you even saying this? Everyone's approach depends on the
condition of eveything applicable in relationship to their own understanding
and their aim. If you obstruct real teaching from occurring, you will have
to bear the karma of this.

> It is therefore not uncommon for teachers to write or dictate
> teachings, which are then read or even read out.
> When, however, individual groups of learners are able to
> concentrate upon the essence and not on the appearence or the
> presence of the teacher, meetings do take place.

Wry: No one is able to do this (ha ha). We are all mesmerized. Do you not
get it?

> It is only relatively recently in the West that psychological workers
have
> discovered that the actual presence of someone supposed to be
> teaching produces a sense of awe, significance or religious
> devotion which is, of course, not the same as perceiving what
> really is there.

Wry: This is an inane message. I would rather hear about giants from Bart,
and I genuinely mean this. At least his feet, on some occasions. make
contact with the ground. If a real teacher were around here, he would choose
him over you, and you would be handed the written page. Do you not
understand that either writing or teacher can produce the same effect?
People will distort anything as long as they have the wrong view of reality.

I have given a simple exercise, impartial self observation, not because I am
a teacher, but because I am a friend. I hope someone has the common sense to
try doing this. Sincerely, Wry
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> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
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