Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00074)

Tuesday, June 10, 2003

Dear Roberto Carlos:

Re: Our responsibility as implied in Theosophy


Thank you for your considered observations made June 9th.

Consider with me a study of a field that is not strictly
Theosophical. say, the Arts -- of painting.-- sculpture --
architecture ... (I will leave literature, drama, music and
poetry out of it.)

There are numerous fine albums available to study the progress
and the progress of drawing, painting, perspective, geometry,
sculpture, ceramics, and of great monuments, buildings and city
lay-outs, all architecture.

We can learn the general rules of those arts and we are not
concerned with mysteries and symbology, although in the beginning
those were significant and important in conveying knowledge and
science.

They form a kind of underlay, and gave purpose to "sacred art."
In fact a whole science of form and color usage is found to be
associated with the earlier forms of the arts, architecture,
music, drama -- and we find, as we go further into the dawn of
history, as we know it, religion and philosophy as well as
science, open and esoteric, were very much involved. It gets to
be quite a mixture. But they are all associated with one
another. If you take the doctrines of Theosophy on Karma and
Reincarnation as workable, they are based on the assumption of
the immortality of the human Spirit/Soul -- or Ego/Mind. We can
only say that we are the same one consciousness from baby-hood to
the present. We have talents (or their lack) that are ours.
where did they come from? Where were they learned? Surely in
previous lives ?

In all sciences measurement forms the basis for the derivation
and demonstration of laws. Laws are based on similar repetitions.
So too, in the arts, even if the association seems remote.
Measurement depends on mathematics, and physical mathematics
starts with a chosen or designated base point that is stable,
(immovable), in relation to all others that follow.

Metaphysical or transcendental mathematics, deals with "pure
numbers." Such numbers are dissociated from objects. Those are
the mathematics of rules, laws and interactions -- where the
effects of observation, such as ideas, hopes, aspirations,
ignorance, fear, Wisdom and knowledge, are attempted to be
recorded in terms remote from the impact of opinion and personal,
biased emotion. Sometimes an attempt is made to represent them
in graphic form, but those pictures (an art) is always
analogetic, and is far less than the pure idea itself.

And although today, we are more concerned with the surface
effects (the emotional, psychological and mental impact of the
Arts, such as advertising and political values (?) their
foundation in the purest of sciences (mathematics) is traceable,
and those who really study have to secure a grasp of those
origins and rules handed down from antiquity.

I would say it is the same in Theosophy. In fact ISIS UNVEILED
and then 11 years later, the SECRET DOCTRINE trace for us those
remote paths and brings them up to the moment -- showing how our
"new Science" is indebted to the old. In so doing, H P B shows
how the information was concealed in special ways of drawing,
coloring and writing.

Secret codes are traced in the past and right up to the present.
Those codes represent the workings of nature as traced by ancient
research.

Every of theogony is shown to have evolved their variant on the
same common basis. H P B states that Theosophy is that basis and
it is a record of the knowledge, data and WISDOM of the Universe
and the operation of its laws.

She states that modern science merely uncovers, or peels back
some of the obscuration that hides Nature's operations from the
sight of the average "superficial" man and woman. Let us be
clear. Nature was here first and she operates now -- without our
interference or "supervision." We are but re-discoverers, all of
us. Nature will always be present in all aspects of the ONE
LIFE. We are parts of Her and she is a part -- the most
essential -- of us.

Our "microscopes" see ever the more minute aspects of the
vibrating, gyrating force fields that make up "real mater." But
they do not reveal, yet, the CAUSE. Similarly our telescopes,
and other apparatus for discovery in the depths of Space, show
more and more interdependence, so that the whole vast ONENESS is
impressed on our consciousness. The whirling gyrating
force-fields of the "great" are analogous to those of the
"small."

It becomes clear that in any civilization, old or present, there
is interaction between all the departments of science and art.
Supporting, and balancing, and making them possible are the arts
of applied science: technology and engineering. Those rest on
mathematics as a base. Mathematics, geometry and schematics are
representatives of the universal laws of order, interaction,
proportion and perspective. Just as a computer, no matter how
complex, depends on the four basic laws of arithmetic, so all
things in the universe and in our relations are dependent on a
few laws and concepts of interpretation. Usually, the basic laws
are an "accepted," and held to be pretty well inarguable.
Students in school are now taught these laws relative to optics,
the conductivity of heat, sound, chemistry, balance and
proportion, mechanics, and so forth. Art and Science join, and
proceed ever as before, hand in hand. But who is the Master ?
who Knows what ought to be done by whom, and, where, when and
how?

Where argument and opinion emerge, they are in the area of
interpretation. The field is vast, and as it is difficult to
secure agreement and tolerance of opinions, when we find
diversion. This can be traced all down the history of any art,
science or government. The most unwise course is to choose
"leaders." Until we are qualified by learning, and
self-discipline, to know who is TRUE, it is better to follow our
own inspiration and intuition.

If anything our responsibility is to keep these great ideas ,
these perspectives that integrate positively, alive. We need to
know them well so as to explain with certainty the many
ramifications and aspects, sources and possible finalities.

What is the great finale for all manifestation? Is it not
conscious BROTHERHOOD -- of all the immeasurable components of
the ONE NATURE, the ONE UNIVERSE? Can that be anything less that
SUPREME PERFECTION?

One has to know what Theosophy is concerned with -- the whole
Universe -- which only a human mind can encompass. And is not
our appearance on Earth at this time only a phase a passing
moment in our own progress of learning these wonderful truths and
facts? And, putting them into practice as the great virtues?

As is this not also an aspect of inspiration? A combination of
Knowledge and of Hope. But these two alone are insufficient. The
third and most important of all is the Indomitable Will to
advance, to succeed and to do good. Without that, there is
stagnation.

Let the writings of H P B and W Q J stand forth, so that all may
bathe in their luminous LIFE -- we are but passers-on. That is
our present duty.

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Carl
Sent:	Monday, June 09, 2003 8:11 PM
To:	study@blavatsky.net
Subject:	[bn-study] Re: re ULT and G. de P.


I wonder what inspiration is all about.


Is being loyal to H.P.B. the same as unveiling Isis or the
mysteries of existence within oneself?

Undoubtedly, HPB and W.Q. Judge are great assets to mankind,
great spirits of our time.

But I wonder where lies our responsibility to keep the
theosophical movement
going on without our being attached to printed pages and biased
arguments
whatsoever.

I do not mean HPB´s teachings should be discarded by anyone on
the Path - on the contrary!

But every day I become more and more convinced that Theosophy is
much more than meets the eye, the ear and the human brain.

Theosophy should be engraved in our hearts and souls, indeed.

Roberto
Rio de Janeiro
Brazil