Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00071)

Hi all of you,

God is watching be aware !



These are some views:

I made a research on "Kidhr - The Green Guide" - "old man" - titled as "unexplained", - based on The Internet:



(Aeeehm...This is NOT an article made by...me. Kidhr helped me from time totime.)
>:-)

 

1.

Kidhr has many manes. here are some of them:



Uderolal (The river God), Green pagan George or St. George, Kiderlik, St. Theodore, Dulah Lal, Jhulelal, Amarlal, Zínda Pir, Khwaja Khizr, Darya Shah.
Enoch, Elijah, Ellez , Metatron, Kisir (Persia), Hizir/Hizr (Turkish), Hudr(Jewish), Green Angel Guide (Islam), Kataragama Deviyo (Buddhism), Hermes/Hormux (Greek) Pir Badar or Raja Kidar, Manu (India), Murugan, Hayat Nabi,Hodja, Khuddur, Henoch, Edris, Idris, Thoth, Lord Varuna, Kidr and more variations.



(Funny enough also this: Kentucky Interfaith Disaster Response (KIDR) ).  



2.

Don't miss the miracle story from 1968 - in Korea ! 

http://khidr.org/hizir.htm (- a good website).

3.

Kidhr's origins even reaches back to the Sumerian Gilgamesh epic-

Christ was also associated with a fish, and was riding in Jerusalem on a donkey dressed it is said in green as a gardener.

The Indian god "Manu" has by the way a fish tied to a boat in the Himalaya somewhere. What a weird fellow. >:-)

A book "Theosophy and Islam" by Tehja Gunawardhana seems worth a try.



4. 

Kidhr as "Uderolal" is worshipped throughout Sind and Punjab and various parts of India.
This is interesting, if one compares this with what K. Paul Johnson has stated in his books about the Masters. HPB was certainly travelling near that area. And she must have known the Khwajah sufi orders - which have titles as "Masters".


There are interesting similarities between the Indus river and the Nile, and the worship of The River God.

Both Muslims and Hindus come and worship this being.
The shrine is here:
A photo of the shrine at Uderolal - is here:
http://www.nipa-khi.edu.pk/murlidhar.pdf (page 5).
And here are more info: http://ignca.nic.in/ps_01006.htm 

They have rituals, which are close to the Zoroastrians.
They also blend with the Bhakti cult of India.





5.

Khidr is experienced simultaneously as a person and as an archetype... To have it as a master and initiated is to be obliged to be what it is it self. Khidr is the master of all those who are masterless, because it shows allthose whose master it is how to be what it himself is: it who has attained 
the Spring of Life... it who has attained haqiqa, the mystic, esoteric truth which dominates the Law, and frees us from the literal religion. Khidr is the master of all these, because it shows each one how to attain the spiritual state which it himself has attained and which it typifies...

 

Indeed, Khidr's - "guidance" - does not consist in leading all its
disciples uniformly to the same goal, to one theophany 
identical for all, in the manner of a theologian propagating 
his dogma. It leads each disciple to its own theophany, the 
theophany of which it personally is the witness, because that theophany ... each person is oriented toward a quest for his/her personal invisible guide, or ... he/her entrusts himself/herself to the collective, magisterial authority as the intermediary between himself/herself and Revelation

All this cannot be taught uniformly to all, because each person is a measure of what he/she can understand and of what, in accordance with the - economy - of esoterism, it is fitting to set before him/her. 





Feel free to comment of do your best...

from 
M. Sufilight with peace and love...






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