re Bart, exoteric/esoteric
May 14, 2003 08:25 PM
by Mauri
Bart wrote: << If I had, it would have been sort of like
taking drugs to find enlightenment. I might get away
with it once or twice, but I was looking for a permanent
solution, and if I used that route regularly, I would
have almost certainly eventually got busted, and, if I
continued, would lose my license, and, if I still
continued, gone to jail.>>
Considerations re approaches toward enlightenment in
terms of occasional, creative short cuts when traveling
by car are, IMHSO, two different-enough and logically
non-related things, so while a "straight"/logical analogy
between "esoteric" (standing for a form of "creative
chort cut" in my post, in a kind of tongue-in-cheek
sense) and "exoteric" (standing for conventionality)
may not be easy to guess at by "reading between the
lines," I was trying to see if anybody could, with help
from that confusing/misleading analogy (if it could be
called that, or worse?), get a sense of how people, in
general, might (or do?) tend to go with the flow of
"ordinary reality" without questioning/speculating
much about it.
In other words, seems to me that most people are
railroaded or driven (as per the "planners" in your post,
in a sense) by karma (exoterics/planning) to the extent
that "reality" to them seems so solid and unquestioned,
in their "basic terms," that, for the most part, they seem
to live their entire lives in the grip of maya, karma,
"accepted reality," or, as in your case re the "planners"
re my confusing/misleading "analogy" (he he), there
seems to be a general tendency among humans to
follow "established trends" as if they were written in
stone, or something. Not that I'm any different, for the
most part.
And not that there's anything "wrong" with various
established trends, models, Theosophies, etc, but I
think that as in the case of Zen, for example, there are
those who try to transcend various forms of karma and
"ordinary reality." But seeing as I've been trying to
refer to something that can't really be exoterized too
well, in general, apparently, chances are, might be that
... whatever ...
<< I have heard black magic defined as "magic
designed to protect you from your own karma", and, if
you do this long enough, karma hits you hard enough to
destroy you. Sort of like climbing a mountain; you can
take a short-cut straight up the side, but run a high risk
of falling down to the bottom again.>>
I tend to suspect (as per my "karma," apparently, as
compared to "suspecting straight out"... ^:-) that "black
magic" might (in some cases?) refer to some of what
might be called "somewhat-troubled choices" (?) arising
from feelings of having been cornered or short-changed
in some or various real/"real" or imagined ways.
Speculatively,
Mauri
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