Theos-Talk Archives (May 2003 Message tt00029)

Leon wrote: <<Mauri, The only thing I can say in 
answer to your comments per my discourse on the 
necessity for constant thinking, is that you seem to 
think intuiting is separate from other forms of thought, 
such as reasoning, speculating, meditating, or 
contemplating. In my view they are all aspects of 
thinking in general. >>

Yes, there is thinking in a variety of ways. But, as 
Shakespeare might've said: To think, or not to think, 
that is the question. Or, well, he might've thought 
about that if he'd had some interest in transcending 
"ordinary reality" and "ordinary thoughts"? In other 
words, how can anybody expect to transcend 
"ordinary reality" by ordinary (or dualistic/multiplistic) 
means, alone? Not that certain kinds of models (as per 
yours and Geralds, for example) might not offer (in 
some cases, situations?) clues, or serve as pathworking 
tools, but seems to me that they are comparatively or 
somewhat useless for those whose karma hasn't 
prepared them for any kind of directives toward the 
"transcending of ordinary reality," and so, in THAT 
sense, "thinking" seems to me to have rather limited 
"more-direct/applicatory" value (in many cases, 
apparently ...) in such as "transcending karma" and 
"achieving enlightenment," as long as that "thinking," 
itself, is karma, itself, although there might be many 
introductory uses for thinking, modeling, scietizing, 
etc, that might be seen as "leading toward" (by 
whatever roundabout route?) some kind of 
"understanding of esoteric topics." Seems that I might 
be referring to an "esoteric/experiential" that's beyond 
karma and "normal" thought processes, whether you 
call such thought processes intuitive or not? So ... 

Anyway, in my attempt to refer to something that 
seems kind of undescribable, apparently, (re 
"esoteric/experiential"), within "ordinary reality," at 
any rate, apparantly, I've been putting quotes on 
"intuitive," hoping to somehow magically convey, I 
suppose, something about another way of "thinking," 
in a sense, but ... Nothing doing, eh? 

Hmm. How about "awareness," in a "broader sense" 
(complete with quotes!)? No? ^:-)

Seems as if some of your posts (at least SOME of your 
posts, surely?), Leon, might suggest that you might 
have some kind of handle on what I've been trying to 
"get across" (hee hee), so it isn't as if I'm too worried, 
exactly. And seeing as this is, apparently, a discussion 
list, so we're "discussing," eh, after all (or else?)? 

Speculatively,
Mauri