Theos-Talk Archives (April 2003 Message tt00166)

Bill wrote: <<I intended to ask you several particular 
questions about the possible source of the "inherent, 
basic, creative freedom of thought" that you may have
experienced, but I became intuitively aware that I 
would only be stacking my thoughts along with yours 
in a futile effort to build Jacob's ladder.>>

My speculations, at the moment, about what might be 
called "freedom of thought" would seem to suggest 
that (1), while the "thought" portion of that freedom is 
karmic/mayavic (or exoteric), there may be, at times, a 
noumenal motivation (in some "less karmic sense," 
maybe?) beyond some of those thoughts, or 
thought-related factors, which kind of motivation 
might have some kind of link with whatever that's 
"higher and less mayavic," say, even though the actual 
translated (or exoteric) thought version of those 
noumenal promptings might be karmic and mayavic, 
in turn ...

Or (2), maybe there is something (from previous 
manvantaras, for all I know) in all of our karma, itself, 
that might somehow tend to, at some point, karmically 
clue us in toward transcending karmic effects or 
"ordinary reality"...

Or, (3), a mix of those two, or ...

While someone could (easily enough?) clarify what 
about that topic in terms of what Theosophy has to 
say about it, I suspect that there might still be the 
somewhat unanswered question (for some of us?) re 
which Theosophic version, or interpretation, or 
interpretive tendency, is being upheld, and why ... In 
other words, as long as our "why's" are, after all, 
dependent arisings (ie, rather blatantly karmic and 
mayavic, essentially), "why" would Theosophists want 
to get particularly caught up in them, seeing an aspect 
of Theosophy would seem to involve the transcending 
of karma (ie, not that some of those "whys" don't offer 
certain kinds of helpful clues when "read between the 
lines")? After all, isn't "good karma" just as binding as 
any other kind of karma? And not that I'm referring to 
some kind of "shuffling off to nirvana" by oneself, as 
Leon might've put it.

In other words, I wonder if some of our attempts to 
read between the lines, as when reading Theosophical 
literature, making universe models, etc, could often 
result in the making of more karma and maya, in spite 
of our best efforts to "learn about Theosophy," for 
example. Not that ...

Speculatively,
Mauri