Theos-Talk Archives (March 2003 Message tt00260)

Dear Mauri

I would like to add some comments to your comments,
along with some subjective and objective questions :)

Mauri: “Intuition has nothing to do with speculation. 
To intuit is to know the actual reality of what any
group of words mean. That is, having a direct
comprehension of a fundamental truth. Or, as the
dictionary defines it, "The act or faculty of knowing
or sensing without the use of rational processes; 
immediate cognition." 

Erica: Intuition is not to know the actual reality of
any group of words, it’s is as you well mention having
a direct glimpse of a fundamental truth, not
necessarily followed by comprehension, which seems to
be another stage. Actually immediate cognition seems
to be the first step into the process of breaking the
veils of Maya. 

“He who would hear the voice of Nada (2), "the
Soundless Sound," and comprehend it...” H.P.B. Voice
of the Silence

Erica: We could name this “immediate cognition” as the
soundless sound or the pathless path? But, if not
followed by comprehension seems to be dangerous. 

Many persons with bipolarity have got this “immediate
cognition” and many having not the ability to
comprehend it, go into a self annihilated process,
suicide or get into deep depression falling into a
process of self-destruction etc, because even the
brain can’t stand the immediate cognition without
comprehension. 

To open the inner gates that conduces to the depths of
human soul, is the first and maybe the most difficult
step to overtake. To comprehend the soundless sound
which of course is referred to the inner depths of the
soul. 

But the question is when arises the comprehension?
Only when ignorance is removed? So it seems a journey
which every step taken open an abyss behind, and
thousands paths in front to follow, the point is to
make the right choice, which seems to be very limited.


Mauri: “Thus, "esoteric" refers to the fundamental
"occult" truths of theosophy -- not to their literal
interpretation, nor to reasonable or unreasonable
speculations about them.” 

Erica: Yes, and the basic fundamental truth of
theosophy we could say is:”Man know thyself and you
will be able to unveil the secrets of "God" and of the
universe” The fundamental truth, of theosophy is the
inner path.

Mauri: No amount of words can explain that esoteric,
and completely subjective experience. Each time one
does so, however, is another "initiation" on the path
to one's individual enlightenment. Thus, our inner
knowledge – which we can't talk about -- comes as a
series of plateaus... Each, an awakening at a higher
level... Until full enlightenment is achieved.

Erica: Here I would like to add to your statement the
three halls that Blavatsky mentions in the Voice of
the Silence:

“Three Halls, O weary pilgrim, lead to the end of
toils. Three Halls, O conqueror of Mara, will bring
thee through three states (14) into the fourth (15)
and thence into the seven worlds (16), the worlds of
Rest Eternal.”

“The name of the first Hall is IGNORANCE -- Avidya.”

“The name of Hall the second is the Hall of Learning.*
In it thy Soul will find the blossoms of life, but
under every flower a serpent coiled (18).”

“The name of the third Hall is Wisdom, beyond which
stretch the shoreless waters of AKSHARA, the
indestructible Fount of Omniscience (19).”

Mauri: “Unfortunately, many students reach the first
or second plateau, think they have comprehended it
all, and stop their searching to start preaching 
or teaching what they know… sometimes reach no higher
than the lower self that is caught up in the astral or
the lower mental planes.”

Erica: Unfortunately many people don’t even cross the
first Hall, which is ignorance. First the peregrine
has to have heard the voice of the silence, or the
soundless sound and have to comprehend it!

Many can’t develop the process of comprehension which
is straight connected to remove ignorance. This is
hard, one has to kill the self to get free of it. As
there is no real learning and understanding without
real comprehension, there is no comprehension while
there is ignorance.

The three halls mentioned in the Voice of the silence
are inner stages into the path of enlightenment. The
first hall the peregrine has to pass is “Avidya” or
ignorance, the second hall Learning and the third hall
Wisdom. 

Mauri: “It's easy to form a group of lesser
knowledgeable people around such a self 
professed guru. But, the possibility of arriving at
any sort of higher wisdom, realization of self and
enlightenment, or effectiveness in helping and
teaching others, is pretty remote.”

Erica: A friend of mine use to joke saying: People
they want to know the truth and they start meditating,
practicing Yoga, making intensive prayers, and one day
“God” appears and says stop you bother me. Them they
say: “God” spoke to me. They return to the world and
they start preaching.”

Mauri: Only after one reaches the highest level, can
they turn around and speak directly using the proper
words to answer anyone's questions at any level of 
their understanding. 
That's why, the entire Secret Doctrine takes so many
millions of words on thousands of pages to explain to
everyone at every level. And, why so "many are called
but so few are chosen."

Erica: Few are those that can start the most hard
path, and still fewer are those that are on the path
and can stand it... 

Weeping he wondered through unknown lands.
Crossing the terrific gates of human egoism, he saw
the secrets of the dark land
It was a land of grief and fear, nourished by tears
>From where love was banished and a smile never was
seen 

He felt the breath of the devil into his skin,
Beside his own grave plot he was
Quite he observed the shadows of death trying to get
roots into his soul
He tried to contemplate heaven and do not listen the
voices of the grave
Those voices were in agony crying out human
ignorance...

He said:

'O heaven I charge thee to tell me...
Where can I rest?
Is there any peaceful valley?
Where can I feel the perfume of the spring flowers?
Where may I lay my eyes in the glittering stars?'

Thunders were crossing the sky
The wind was carrying on his wings, black storm coming
out of chaos
To his lamentations there was silence...
His sorrow crossed nature to the utmost pole... 

Mauri: Therefore, unless one has already been on the
path in previous lifetimes, and one's karma warrants
it -- to get all the way through to the top is very
tough going, and requires deep concentrated study and
practice, for a long, long time. So, wherever you
are, keep on plugging. 
(snip)... 
The only way we can understand those esoteric aspects
of reality, is to examine them in the light of a
correct scientifically sound) model of fundamental 
reality.


Erica: The only problem is that, there is no
fundamental reality! Only models that are turned a
part during an inner journey.
It seems without this comprehension every try is going
to be without success. There is a point into the human
quest that words would not be enough to express what
might be to give an infant step on those virgin lands
of the inner self. 


Erica Letzerich



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