Theos-Talk Archives (March 2003 Message tt00007)

March 1, 2003

Dear Etzion and Friends:

You are again quite correct as I see it.

May I make what I believe to be a Theosophical application ?


Lets look at reincarnation based on Soul immortality. And not based
purely on the feelings and inclinations of our personality (
Kama-Manas) of this life.

If we were to apply the teachings of Theosophy what might we say ?

We are immortal beings as Spiritual Souls ( Buddhi-Manas). We are
THINKERS. We are not our bodies nor our cultures and religions.
Those are imposed on us in childhood. But they are very limited in
prospect. In fact if we have the good fortune to be able to study at
close hand other cultures and religions, we will find similarities and
dissimilarities.

We can then probe our own and theirs with more impartiality, in an
effort to secure that which is basic to all. We can thus make them
universal, impersonal, impartial and develop understanding and
tolerance

We can then eliminate the irritating aspect of partial information or
propaganda that is one-sided. No doubt we are daily bombarded with
such. Need we succumb to that kind of mind-control? Or should we act
independently and with a clear judgment as humans that can see what is
happening, but, we ourselves are not involved ?

So if this idea of the immortality of our Higher Ego (Buddhi-Manas) is
correct, then we reincarnate with intervals of time between births of
1000 to 1500 years, that make our last embodiment a matter of history.
We are detached from it and may look back objectively of what might
have happened in the course of national development.

We are no longer attached by passion or ignorance to the "political"
or "governmental" principles of a past or present age. In future we
will again reincarnate in other cultures.

In any case lets look at the more recent past.

We have lived in blissful ignorance of 99% of the ways in which other
peoples live -- their cultures their beliefs, their lives and ways of
looking at life. Are we to assume that our way of looking, or the way
we are told to look are 100% correct? Or are going to impatiently,
ignorantly and in haste adopt the general propaganda influence of "our
country" or "our party," and proceed blindly among the blind, "to
follow the leader?

Who takes responsibility? Who receives the wounds or death ? WE DO.
Our "leaders" of these days are safely way out of the way--half a
world apart. Why don't they lead the troupes as Generals and Kings
used to in olden times? Are they cowards? Or is their philosophy,
and are their reasons flawed? or have they fund a large number of
individuals who will blindly execute orders mindlessly ? I mean US.

Consider also the unbalance of armaments. We have superior equipment,
and one man is usually equal to 20 or more of the enemy if not a 100.
In some cases flying high above the earth (or firing missiles from
hundreds or thousands of miles away) we can unleash sudden,
stupefying, irresponsible, and terrible torture on many innocent
civilians who happen to be in our way. As time passes and munitions
are devised that ever more terrible, we can see that the aftermath of
all wars have escalated to include and make vulnerable the
civilians -- who in older times were excluded. And our propagandists
claim to be waging war to protect and enfranchise them. Very strange.

Why are we suddenly interested in these maters? Were they not
happening before? why was our nation or party so slow in preventing
this crisis? why were we not informed earlier?

We find ourselves suddenly confronted with a "do or die" situation.
We are placed by our "leaders on a wartime basis ready to "fight for
the right" as they define it. I(s our advice asked for? Are we
receiving adequate advance explanations as to why we ought to go lour
and kill totally unknown strangers for all, religious or political
ideologies we know nothing or very little about ?

What remains?

Well I will stop now with my probing.

Best wishes,

Dallas




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-----Original Message-----
From: Etzion B
Sent:	Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:01 AM
To:
Subject:	Re: figures in history compared

Dear Dallas, thank you. I was sorry to see that for some time, the
atmosphere of the forum was on the right direction, and then it got
broken
over all this coarse discussions. Our Master warned us again and again
not
to be involved with political discussions. And I understand why: All
these
issues are above our heads, the Masters are in control of this world,
and we
better of focus ourselves on the unification of the spiritual family
on
earth. Love, Etzion