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----- Original Message -----
From: <netemara888@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World figures in history compared


> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "nama_sivam" <nama_sivam@h...>
> wrote:
> > Hitler was a Beast
> > But Bush is lunatic
> > We can manage with a beast rather than lunatic
> >
> >
> Hi nama,
>
> There is more than one way to see world leaders. I have made a study,
> an historical study of the leaders of the world, ancient and present.
> I have begun to trace Hitler's past lives his metamorphosis through
> those lives. And I assure you he is neither a beast nor a lunatic. He
> followed a pattern which was set up before he came on the world
> scene. And as I quoted on my website from The Tibetan that what we
> have is not destruction of human beings in WWII but the destruction
> of forms. There is a difference. There is a karmic difference. If you
> have read the many accounts of the holocaust as I have you will see
> that these were choices of suffering. Some chose to suffer and go
> through this karma fully and others died at the sight of it and
> others committed suicide.
>
> Suffering for past sins is a choice but it is a choice which can be
> put off to another time and it becomes future karmas. This is also
> the case with Hitler. He is not burning in hell, he has returned to a
> physical body just as many who were killed in the holocaust. That is
> the LAW. The less evolved have less control over how this law affects
> their life.
>
> As for Bush I had contact with him on the inner planes before he took
> office that summer in fact. I knew he would be elected. Then it
> played out as some sort of theft of the office. Yeah, the powers that
> be stole the office for him--if you want to look at it that way.
>
> Bush, now, may be the one who presides over countless loss and
> destruction of human forms if this war has a domino effect. Bush,
> like Hitler, knows exactly what he is doing, make no mistake about
> it. And if he does not, then those who are pulling his spiritual
> strings DO. I can't say more than this about it. Hitler's case was
> one of extremes in the ranks. They went too far and evil was about to
> overtake humanity and according to the Tibetan the Gods stepped in
> and had to help. You don't have to read or believe anything I've
> said. But the Truth is usually NOT what people THINK. Truth is
> created by those that KNOW.
>
> Sufi light has made some comments about linking this all to
> Theosophy. Well world leaders are linked to Theosophy due to the
> First Ray of power's role in the world which provides world leaders
> and royalty. Blavatsky herself was royalty and from royal families in
> many lives. Those who know and have studied her know that she had a
> short fuse and a host of flaws that are directly related to the first
> ray personality type. Sufi also mentioned that we should incorporate
> some of King's talimens in our thinking. He believed as Gandhi did in
> nonviolence and nondestruction. Well, in my understanding of creation
> there is going to be destruction to make way for the new.
>
> It is strange that Gandhi urged his followers be nonviolent and to
> get/take their freedom from the British Raj but they in turn vented
> all that anger toward the Brits and violence on each other and killed
> up and hacked up fellow countrymen, but did little violence to the
> British? This has also been seen among African Americans. They have
> done little to the white establishment but have reeked havoc on their
> own kind! That is not what the First Ray had in mind--that the little
> people should be killed, by their own kind. So is there no irony in
> the fact that they were both gunned down in an act of violence? I am
> not saying they did not say some good words but they must have taken
> a wrong turn somewhere.
>
> My own not so humble opinion about MKG and MLK is that they
> manifested Second Ray qualities in a First Ray job. And that is why
> the world powers do OWE them holidays and a great deal of thanks for
> saving their hides!!!!!
>
> Netemara
>
> > namaasivayam
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Frank Reitemeyer <dhyana@w...>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World figures in history compared
> >
> >
> > > 4) "Adolf Hitler" has 10 letters. "George Bush" has 10 letters.
> > >
> > > Really? I count 11 for Adolf Hitler.
> > >
> > > 9) Hitler was known to eat food regularly. So is Bush.
> > >
> > > Hitler was a vegetarian and loved animals, Bush not. Hitler
> scheduled to
> > stop all animal sacrifice for the 1950's in order to live in
> harmony with
> > nature. For the same reason in 1934 an environment control program
> was
> > launched.
> > > Bush supports animal sacrifice, even food indexed as "k" (for
> kosher).
> > Bush destroys environment.
> > > Frank
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