Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00446)

There is one problem with accepting Libet's conclusions based on his research 
into the time delay factor between the moment of sensation and the 
intentional (willed) reactive response (muscular action) to consciously 
perceived information...  

Because of the limitations of objective observation of the neurological 
processes between the sensory organs and the brain, which are carried out 
entirely on the physical level by physical means, one cannot measure the 
actual time between the "experience" of consciousness itself and the 
"initiation" of the response... 

>From a theosophical (Ref: my ABC theory) point of view, this experience of 
perception or awareness and willed response -- by the nature of the higher 
order hyperspace fields where perceptive images are modulated holographically 
and detected by our awareness, as well as the "non-local" and instantaneous 
entanglement of their "zero-point-instants" (where both awareness and will 
are actuated) -- must occur instantaneously. In other words, we feel the itch
and make the determination to scratch it simultaneously. However, all 
science can do is measure the time between the cause of the itch and the 
effect of the scratch. This can be done by MRI study of the brain as its 
neural system reacts to both the effector and affector nerve paths. 

The fact that the individual appears to not be consciously aware of his 
instantaneous willed choice of action until a half second into it, is 
explained by the fact that, it takes time to change one's attention from the 
cause of action to the centers of the brain that can report it to the 
observer.   

The delay, or what appears to be an action of the brain before the 
perception, that Libet measured, is the time between the initial sensations 
which first has to travel through the nervous system at the speed of sidereal 
light to the brain where it forms the electromagnetic field that is modulated 
with the holographic interference patterns of the images we perceive. This 
field information is then inductively (or resonantly) transformed 
simultaneously to the coadunate fields of mind to be detected by our 
zero-point of awareness. From that point of perception, the instantaneous 
response of will that determines our reaction has to travel back down through 
the brain field, and then transformed through the neural system into 
electrochemical pulses traveling at the speed of sidereal light to effect the 
muscular response... Such as, reaching out to catch the fly ball the 
outfielder sees.  

Since the hologram of the outer world containing the moving ball and the 
hologram of our inner perception of it are identical and instantaneously 
simultaneous in our awareness, the perceiver can make an instantaneous 
calculation of its trajectory and location with respect to the body, and the 
ball is accurately caught. The signals passing in both directions through 
the affective and effective passages in the brain-body is where the delay 
occurs that fools the observer into thinking that we anticipate the action 
and that conscious perception and its willful response isn't instantaneous.  
This is the paradox that has confused the study of consciousness -- which 
today is carried out under the assumption that consciousness is an 
epiphenomena of physical matter related to the complexity of the neural 
circuitry of the brain. Unfortunately, Libet's observations and assumptions 
serves to confirm this to most scientists who practice the scientific method 
that is based solely of objective observation, and who do not understand the 
seven fold hyperspace nature of both the universe and all the beings within 
it. 

According to the above theory, "awareness" and "will" as the dual aspects of 
"consciousness" are both the inherent nature of the ubiquitous zero-point 
itself, while "matter" is the nature of the spinergy fields that are 
coadunate but not consubstantial. Any image field changes in any one of the 
7 fold fields that constitute the human body, are, therefore, instantaneously 
replicated in all the higher order fields -- due to their coadunate 
nature which links them all together through their zero-points. While the 
physical field's of action-reactions are limited by the speed of (sidereal) 
light "C", the higher order fields of mind-memory, which vibrate at much 
higher frequencies than the physical fields, are not so limited. This is 
because the astral light, by which we perceive the hologram of the outer word 
replicated in the mind field, travels at a velocity much higher than C.  
Thus, the images we actually see and the effect of will on them is 
instantaneous. Because the fields surrounding all sense detectors such as 
the rods and cones of the eye are coadunate with all other fields.

I hope this clarifies things a bit.

LHM 
 
In a message dated 12/17/02 9:34:36 AM, kpauljohnson@yahoo.com writes:

><kpauljohnson@y...> wrote:
>Good morning,
>
>Recently I delved into this challenging new book which surveys all 
>recent research on consciousness and thus should be of interest to 
>most people here. This book by Carter provides plenty of food for 
>thought. What intrigues me especially is research that shows brain 
>activity preparatory to movement occurs *before* conscious 
>intention. The researcher is named Libet and his "experiment showed 
>that the brain starts to execute a voluntary movement before the 
>person `decides' to do it. A wave of neural activity known as the 
>Readiness Potential-- a marker of action to come-- was detected 
>nearly half a second before the person reported being aware of their 
>decision to act. The actual action occurred shortly after, when the 
>neural processes which started with the Readiness Potential produced 
>the contraction of muscle fibers."(p. 84)
>
>This would seem to confirm the Fourth Way teachings that "man is a 
>machine" and "no one can do." But Libet is resistant to abolishing 
>free will, and comes up with an ingenious way to rescue it, that also 
>is reminiscent of Gurdjieff: we can't freely decide to do something, 
>because the conscious decision is really an aftereffect. But in the 
>half second between Readiness Potential and action, when we do become 
>conscious we can *stop* the action in progress. And this is the 
>extent of our free will. Free won't, rather
>
>Comments?
>
>Paul