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3 CCULTISM, Conversations -- 3 -- Elementals & Elementaries

Jan 03, 2003 05:15 PM
by dalval14

January 2003

Dear Friends:

As the subject of Occultism and Esotericism has been reanimated and as
there seems to be some confusion over them perhaps some of these brief
notes will be of help.

Best wishes,





Student. - If I understand you, an elemental is a centre of force,
without intelligence, without moral character or tendencies, but
capable of being directed in its movements by human thoughts, which
may, consciously or not, give it any form, and to a certain extent
intelligence; in its simplest form it is visible as a disturbance in a
transparent medium, such as would be produced by a "glass fish, so
transparent as to be invisible, swimming through the air of the room,"
and leaving behind him a shimmer, such as hot air makes when rising
from a stove. Also, elementals, attracted and vitalized by certain
thoughts, may effect a lodgment in the human system (of which they
then share the government with the ego), and are very hard to get out.

Sage. - Correct, in general, except as to their "effecting a
lodgment." Some classes of elementals, however, have an intelligence
of their own and a character, but they are far beyond our
comprehension and ought perhaps to have some other name.

That class which has most to do with us answers the above description.
They are centres of force or energy which are acted on by us while
thinking and in other bodily motions. We also act on them and give
them form by a species of thought which we have no register of. As,
one person might shape an elemental so as to seem like an insect, and
not be able to tell whether he had thought of such a thing or not. For
there is a vast unknown country in each human being which he does not
himself understand until he has tried, and then only after many
That "elementals . . . may effect a lodgment in the human system, of
which they then share the government, and are very hard to get out"
is, as a whole, incorrect. It is only in certain cases that any one or
more elementals are attracted to and "find lodgment in the human
system." In such cases special rules apply. We are not considering
such cases. The elemental world interpenetrates this, and is therefore
eternally present in the human system.

As it (the elemental world) is automatic and like a photographic
plate, all atoms continually arriving at and departing from the "human
system" are constantly assuming the impression conveyed by the acts
and thoughts of that person, and therefore, if he sets up a strong
current of thought, he attracts elementals in greater numbers, and
they all take on one prevailing tendency or color, so that all new
arrivals find a homogeneous color or image which they instantly

On the other hand, a man who has many diversities of thought and
meditation is not homogeneous, but, so to say, particolored, and so
the elementals may lodge in that part which is different from the rest
and go away in like condition. In the first case it is one mass of
elementals similarly vibrating or electrified and colored, and in that
sense may be called one elemental, in just the same way that we know
one man as Jones, although for years he has been giving off and taking
on new atoms of gross matter.

Student. - If they are attracted and repelled by thoughts, do they
move with the velocity of thought, say from here to the planet

Sage. - They move with the velocity of thought. In their world there
is no space or time as we understand those terms. If Neptune be within
the astral sphere of this world, then they go there with that
velocity, otherwise not; but that "if" need not be solved now.

Student. - What determines their movements besides thought, - e.g.,
when they are floating about the room?

Sage. - Those other classes of thoughts above referred to; certain
exhalations of beings; different rates and ratios of vibration among
beings; different changes of magnetism caused by present causes or by
the moon and the year; different polarities; changes of sound; changes
of influences from other minds at a distance.

Student. - When so floating, can they be seen by any one, or only by
those persons who are clairvoyant?

Sage. - Clairvoyance is a poor word. They can be seen by partly
clairvoyant people. By all those who can see thus; by more people,
perhaps, than are aware of the fact.

Student. - Can they be photographed, as the rising air from the hot
stove can?

Sage. - Not to my knowledge yet. It is not impossible, however.

Student. - Are they the lights, seen floating about a dark séance room
by clairvoyant people?

Sage. - In the majority of cases those lights are produced by them.

Student. - Exactly what is their relation to light, that makes it
necessary to hold séances in the dark?

Sage. - It is not their relation to light that makes darkness
necessary, but the fact that light causes constant agitation and
alteration in the magnetism of the room. All these things can be done
just as well in the light of day.

If I should be able to make clear to you "exactly what is their
relation to light," then you would know what has long been kept
secret, the key to the elemental world. This is kept guarded because
it is a dangerous secret. No matter how virtuous you are, you could
not - once you knew the secret - prevent the knowledge getting out
into the minds of others who would not hesitate to use it for bad

Student. - I have noticed that attention often interferes with certain
phenomena; thus a pencil will not write when watched, but writes at
once when covered; or a mental question cannot be answered till the
mind has left it and gone to something else. Why is this?

Sage. - This kind of attention creates confusion. In these things we
use desire, will, and knowledge. The desire is present, but knowledge
is absent. When the desire is well formed and attention withdrawn, the
thing is often done; but when our attention is continued we only
interrupt, because we possess only half attention. In order to use
attention, it must be of that sort which can hold itself to the point
of a needle for an indefinite period of time.

Student. - I have been told that but few people can go to a séance
without danger to themselves, either of some spiritual or astral
contamination, or of having their vitality depleted for the benefit of
the spooks, who suck the vital force out of the circle through the
medium, as if the former were a glass of lemonade and the latter a
straw. How is this?

Sage. - Quite generally this happens. It is called Bhut worship by the

Student. - Why are visitors at a séance often extremely and
unaccountably tired next day?

Sage. - Among other reasons, because mediums absorb the vitality for
the use of the "spooks," and often vile vampire elementaries are

Student. - What are some of the dangers at séances?

Sage. - The scenes visible - in the Astral - at séances are horrible,
inasmuch as these "spirits" - bhuts - precipitate themselves upon
sitters and mediums alike; and as there is no séance without having
present some or many bad elementaries - half dead human beings, -
there is much vampirizing going on. These things fall upon the people
like a cloud or a big octopus, and disappear within them as if sucked
in by a sponge. That is one reason why it is not well to attend them
in general.

Elementaries are not all bad, but, in a general sense, they are not
good. They are shells, no doubt of that. Well, they have much
automatic and seemingly intelligent action left if they are those of
strongly material people who died attached to the things of life. If
of people of an opposite character, they are not so strong. Then there
is a class which are really not dead, such as suicides, and sudden
deaths, and highly wicked people. They are powerful. Elementals enter
into all of them, and thus get a fictitious personality and
intelligence wholly the property of the shell. They galvanize the
shell into action, and by its means can see and hear as if beings
themselves, like us. The shells are, in this case, just like a
sleepwalking human body. They will through habit exhibit the
advancement they got while in the flesh. Some people, you know, do not
impart to their bodily molecules the habit of their minds to as great
extent as others. We thus see why the utterances of these so-called
"spirits" are never ahead of the highest point of progress attained by
living human beings, and why they take up the ideas elaborated
day-by-day by their votaries. This séance worship is what was called
in Old India the worship of the Pretas and Bhuts and Pisachas and

I do not think any elementary capable of motive had ever any other
than a bad one; the rest are nothing, they have no motive and are only
the shades refused passage by Charon.

Student. - What is the relation between sexual force and phenomena?

Sage. - It is at the bottom. This force is vital, creative, and a sort
of reservoir. It may be lost by mental action as well as by physical.
In fact its finer part is dissipated by mental imaginings, while
physical acts only draw off the gross part, that which is the
"carrier" (upadhi) for the finer.

Student. - Why do so many mediums cheat, even when they can produce
real phenomena?

Sage. - It is the effect of the use of that which in itself is
sublimated cheating, which, acting on an irresponsible mind, causes
the lower form of cheat, of which the higher is any illusionary form
whatever. Besides, a medium is of necessity unbalanced somewhere.
They deal with these forces for pay, and that is enough to call to
them all the wickedness of time. They use the really gross sorts of
matter, which causes inflammation in corresponding portions of the
moral character, and hence divagations from the path of honesty. It is
a great temptation. You do not know, either, what fierceness there is
in those who "have paid" for a sitting and wish "for the worth of
their money."

Student. - When a clairvoyant, as a man did here a year ago, tells me
that "he sees a strong band of spirits about me," and among them an
old man who says he is a certain eminent character, what does he
really see? Empty and senseless shells? If so, what brought them
there? Or elementals which have got their form from my mind or his?

Sage. - Shells, I think, and thoughts, and old astral pictures. If for
instance, you once saw that eminent person and conceived great respect
or fear for him, so that his image was graven in your astral sphere in
deeper lines than other images, it would be seen for your whole life
by seers, who, if untrained - as they all are here - could not tell
whether it was an image or reality; and then each sight of it is a
revivification of the image.

Besides, not all would see the same thing. Fall down, for instance,
and hurt your body, and that will bring up all similar events and old
forgotten things before any seer's eye.

The whole astral world is a mass of illusion; people see into it, and
then, through the novelty of the thing and the exclusiveness of the
power, they are bewildered into thinking they actually see true
things, whereas they have only removed one thin crust of dirt.

Student. - Accept my thanks for your instruction.

Sage. - May you reach the terrace of enlightenment.

Path, May, 1888 ( W Q Judge)


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