Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00018)

Hi Thalprin and all of you,

Thanks for your words Thalprin.
Here are my views:

Thalprin wrote:
"The idea, of course, is to not only "avoid" being offended
> (interesting choice/use of words) BUT to (as well) seek not to be
> offensive towards others (to the best of one's abilities, of
> course:) ....AND.... truly work to create/promote an atmosphere of
> real peace, freedom and love!"

My Sufilight answer:
Exactly ! Others at Theos-Talk could learn from this for sure...
So how do one seek to do that when writing emails ?
It is here - the 'art' of writing steps in.
I have to say, that at a place like this it is from time to time diffucult
to avoid misunderstandings while writing emails.

Thalprin wrote:
"Different strokes for different folks,"...

My Sufilight answer:
Yes !

Thalprin wrote:
"At surface love -yes- I think/feel I'm understanding you/your
> intention and/or insinuations - thanks, sorry you feel this way."

My Sufilight answer:
What are you sorry about ? I don't understand.
Be happy !
Insinuations, - no Thalprin.
But information - and a design to learn from - yes.


No I don't HAVE moles. But I would like them to get more enlightened. >:-)

Yes my girlfriend has some trouble.
I am not certain who should help her.
Maybe I am already working on it...>:-)


And let us remember, that emails sometimes acts as decoys, so to occupy the
reader,
so that the reader - is not somewhere else, where trouble might occur...>:-)


from
M. Sufilight





----- Original Message -----
From: <thalprin@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World More reference?


> Comments enclosed:
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
> theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Salam Aleikum,
> > *:-)(#,
> >
> > Doing my very best...
> >
> > To Thalprin:
> > No I am not offended.
> > And where did you get that idea from ? The idea is to avoid such an
> attitude
> > as being offended. >:-)
>
> Good, glad to hear it!
>
> The idea, of course, is to not only "avoid" being offended
> (interesting choice/use of words) BUT to (as well) seek not to be
> offensive towards others (to the best of one's abilities, of
> course:) ....AND.... truly work to create/promote an atmosphere of
> real peace, freedom and love!
>
>
> >
> > Even a Master will in a certain sense have to learn how to learn.
> There are
> > levels of wisdom on the issue of learning how to learn...
> >
> > There is the timing. There is the place. There are the living
> creatures,
> > organisms - and humans involved etc...when learning how to learn.
> > And also the design used plays its role.
> > (Measuring the result of the design is also important, at least to
> some.)
> >
> > There are the words used and their vibrations. The language used.
> > ZZZ...IQIQIQ...ZZZ etc.
> >
> > But, but the student asks, when ?, where ?, who ?, what ?, what
> design
> > ?...???
>
> "a Master" - "but, but, students" .... (that's funny and just so very
> darn linear!)
>
> So, more jokes of insinuation - thanks, very enlightening.
>
>
> > It has all to be spiritual.
> > Some would say "use the force".
> > Some would say "use the intuition".
> > Some would say "use your head".
> > Some would say "use your heart".
> > Some would say "use your hands".
> >
> > And some would say "create harmony between all these".
> > Then the answer will certainly come.
>
> Yes, I believe in harmony -this is the true way of the world- of
> course, I also believe these are matters for actual sincerity and not
> mere appearances of tongue.
>
> >
> > ^/\^ ^/\^
> > ===<><>===
> > */\*
>
>
> *
> **
> ***
> ****
>
>
> >
> > So why make a ridge into a mountain...?
>
> ....Why water a garden of plenty?
>
> >
> > Sometimes Theosophists can be compared with the creature which
> sometimes are
> > referred to by the name "mole".
> > http://virtual.clemson.edu/groups/newberry/common/moles.htm
> >
> > You see, they rarely surface. And they are almost as blind as
> bats...>:-)
>
> Good thing you know so much about these matters - gots moles do ya?
> Well, don't worry I hear they're blind as a bat so they'll probably
> never notice no-thing anyways :)
>
>
> >
> > Silence and Love has a lot to do with each other.
> > The wise only speak when it is proper.
> > Silence works and can be very efficient - spiritually seen.
> > From time to time silence is better than those so very long
> Theosophical or
> > should I say academic emails,
> > which litters the serious spiritually interested students -
> emailbox...
>
> Good thang you know what's bestest for others -err... "the serious
> spiritually interested students" - now, if you could Just/manage to
> insinuate/dictate Your Will more thoroughly - ?!
>
> "Different strokes for different folks," may be this is a phrase
> worthy of studying yet.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > There is LOVE at the surface...
> > Surface LOVE is surface love...
> >
> > I stop here.
>
> At surface love -yes- I think/feel I'm understanding you/your
> intention and/or insinuations - thanks, sorry you feel this way.
>
> > I will now privately return to my girlfriends problems...
>
> Sorry to hear your girlfriend's having problems. I do sincerely hope
> things will work themselves out for her beautifully and effiencently.
>
> If you like I will say a prayer for you all/her.
>
> Have a BEAUTIFUL day,
>
> Terrie
>
>
> >
> > from
> > M. Sufilight with a peace more...and some moles living near the
> edge...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <thalprin@y...>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World More reference?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Global-theosophy,
> > >
> > > Comments enclosed:
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
> > > theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Thalprin and all of you,
> > > >
> > > > My views are here given in the below:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Thalprin:
> > > > I thought I already had explained the - KEY - to understand the
> > > persons
> > > > (Helena Roerich,
> > > > Olcott and Krishnamurti) mentioned below.
> > > > I politely ask you --- is it now so:
> > > > That you want me to explain it ALL - so to speak - to you about
> > > those
> > > > persons as well, so that you can escape developing your higher
> > > bodies, right
> > > > ?
> > >
> > > Dearie, perhaps, in having asked for references/links/info you
> > > misinterpret/misconstrue my request in thinking I would ask you
> > > to "explain" -further still, perhaps, your additional
> > > assumptions/presumption about me personally and/or my own
> > > developments/motives are (besides, being off-topic and/or out of
> left-
> > > field) unfounded, judgemental and/or more simply-put odd and mute.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, you are offended that I have/maintain my own opinions.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The next questions could then be on Annie Besant, C. W.
> Leadbeater,
> > > W. Q.
> > > > Judge, Robert Crosbie, Purucker etc...
> > > >
> > > > To all of you:
> > > > --- One should and ought to stop students continuing - dead-
> letter
> > > > reading ---
> > > > --- One ought to teach students the importance of comparative
> > > studies ---
> > > > --- One ought to teach the students the importance of the 7 keys
> > > mentioned
> > > > by Blavatsky ---
> > > >
> > > > The students always says, that they want to learn. But -
> learning
> > > how to
> > > > learn, has not so much their interest even if this is the topic
> > > should be
> > > > followed.
> > > >
> > > > I offer you (Thalprin and other readers) to read the
> book "Learning
> > > how to
> > > > learn" and "The Way of the Sufis" by Idries Shah, that is - if
> you
> > > can get
> > > > hold on them.
> > >
> > > That's funny! I take it you've read this book AND have thusly
> > > learned how to learn. That's nice, and, none-the-less, thanks
> very
> > > much for the kindly suggestions, surely, I will keep these in
> mind.
> > >
> > >
> > > > 1.
> > > > Idries Shah - a true Theosophists - who knew about the 7 keys
> and
> > > the
> > > > teachings on Gupta Vidya:
> > > > http://www.sufis.org/shahworks.html
> > > > And because - some persons - on this list Theos-Talk needs to
> have
> > > more
> > > > respect for the about 1.000.000 humans living as Muslims - the
> > > following are
> > > > recommended:
> > > > 2.
> > > > Sufism and Sufis, orders and Initiates:
> > > > http://www.arches.uga.edu/~godlas/Sufism.html
> > > > 3.
> > > > Early Sufi women:
> > > > http://www.fonsvitae.com/earlysufi.html
> > > > 4.
> > > > Ibn Arabi - the greatest Sheik - the known as the Alchemist
> Doctor
> > > Maximus -
> > > > (pure Gupta Vidya - with true knowledge on the 7 keys)
> > > > http://www.ibnarabisociety.org/IbnArabi.html
> > > > http://www.ibnarabisociety.org/articles/habashi_text.html (a
> badly
> > > > translated text)
> > > > 5.
> > > > Hazrat Inyat Khan - sufi and lecturer at various Theosophical
> > > Societies:
> > > > Online texts from an initiate:
> > > > http://www.planet-interkom.de/friedrich.plesken/HIKe.htm
> > > >
> > > > I think people can agree that Hazrat inyat Khan was a true
> > > Theosophists, so
> > > > why can't they agree on Idries Shah ?
> > > > Or can they ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Martin Luther King Jr. - a quote:
> > > >
> > > > "Now let me suggest first that if we are to have peace on
> earth, our
> > > > loyalties must become ecumenical rather that sectional. Our
> > > loyalties must
> > > > transcend our race, our tribe, our class, and our nation; and
> this
> > > means we
> > > > must develop a world perspective. No individual can live alone;
> no
> > > nation
> > > > can live alone, and as long as we try, the more we are going to
> > > have war in
> > > > this world. Now the judgement of God is upon us, and we must
> either
> > > learn to
> > > > live together as brothers or we are all going to perish
> together as
> > > fools."
> > > >
> > > > Excerpted from "A Christmas Sermon on Peace", delivered on 24
> > > December 1967
> > > > at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, Ga.
> > > >
> > > > Well perish, yes - but maybe only due to Karma...>:-)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ha! That's funnier yet! You know what they say: "Karma is as
> Karma
> > > does or was or will be" !
> > >
> > > Have a BEAUTIFUL day,
> > >
> > > Terrie
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > from
> > > > M. sufilight with peace...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <thalprin@y...>
> > > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:00 AM
> > > > Subject: Theos-World More reference?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > If it's no bother, Dallas, Daniel, Morton could you provide
> more
> > > > > info/reference/links about the works/efforts of Helena
> Roerich,
> > > > > Olcott and Krishnamurti?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd be interested in better understanding the explorations
> and/or
> > > > > efforts of these folks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Terrie
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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