Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00735)

Thanks Etzion, just making sure we are all still on
the ball. But I'm a scientist at heart and before I
can be convinced of something I really need tangible
proof (well something close to tangible anyway). At
the beginning of this year at university I decided to
do some extra subjects and consequently I undertook
philosophy. Well I enjoyed the lectures but after one
tutorial I chucked it in with sheer frustration. Those
guys couldn't make up their minds on anything!!!


--- Etzion Becker <etvionbb@netvision.net.il> wrote:
> It is based on the teachings of my Master. It is a
> simple explanation of the
> results of reincarnation and the spiritual meaning
> of taking forms in this
> physical realm. It needs some study, and the
> assimilation of the divine
> truths into our subcounscious minds, which,
> presumably connects us to the
> Truth. It is actually very simple and logic. I don't
> think that the Koala
> stage would be of help. ;-) Etzion
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mic Forster" <micforster@yahoo.com>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Alleged certificate re
> hermaphroditism TYPO
> CORRECTED AND CLARIFICATION
> 
> 
> > Dear Etzion,
> >
> > I have been told at one stage that koalas ate
> > dinosaurs and kangaroos could bounce without
> tails. In
> > other words, anyone can say anything to anybody
> who
> > will believe it. What proof do you have on what
> you
> > say below?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mic
> >
> > --- Etzion Becker <etvionbb@netvision.net.il>
> wrote:
> > > The sex of the body is no more but a reflection
> of
> > > the solidified
> > > impressions that a person have been accumulating
> and
> > > store in the
> > > subconscious realm a life span. Usually a male
> > > person in one life span,
> > > takes the form of a female in the next life
> span.
> > > Sometimes, a person takes
> > > feminine forms throughout a longer duration of
> > > incarnations, let say, six in
> > > a row. Then he takes a male form, hence the Law
> of
> > > duality comples the drop
> > > soul - atma, to undergo all dual experiences
> while
> > > in Illusion. So, such a
> > > person in a male form will feel as a female. So
> he
> > > might act as what being
> > > called *homosexual*. And vise versa if a person
> took
> > > a long series of male
> > > form. All this has nothing to do with
> spirituality,
> > > since the person must
> > > take spiritual responsibility no matter what,
> and
> > > the limitations of shapes
> > > and forms don't matter. They can form only
> > > challenges. I reallized, quite
> > > clearly, that Madame Blavatsky accepted
> spiritual
> > > responsibility, and tried
> > > to do her best, inspite of her many limitations.
> Her
> > > bodily sex had nothing
> > > to do with this. Best wishes, Etzion
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <bhakti.eohn@verizon.net>
> > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:10 PM
> > > Subject: Theos-World Re: Alleged certificate re
> > > hermaphroditism TYPO
> > > CORRECTED AND CLARIFICATION
> > >
> > >
> > > > TYPO CORRECTED AT >> <<
> > > >
> > > > Now it is clear from photos of HPB that she
> did
> > > not experiance the
> > > > kind of phyical masculinization that I did.
> Late
> > > virilizing forms of
> > > > either XX or XY intersex are extremely rare.
> In
> > > these conditions, the
> > > > child and adolesent may appear as a normal
> female.
> > > After a rather
> > > > extreme >>(and possibly very late...in their
> 20s)
> > > 'puberty'<<, in
> > > > which a
> > > > phallus grows and secondary male sex
> > > characteristics develope, the
> > > > person can no longer hide their
> > > transformation...or 'sex reversal'
> > > > without great difficulty. This is obviously
> NOT
> > > what happened to
> > > > HPB, but being feminine in her youth does not
> mean
> > > anything, as the
> > > > late virilizing forms of intersex HOWEVER MILD
> OR
> > > EXTREME, do not
> > > > NECESSARILY effect the person's pre- 'puberty'
> > > (pre-masculinizing)
> > > > femininity.
> > > >
> > > > GENDER IDENTITY IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ROLES
> THAT
> > > PEOPLE LEARN TO PLAY
> > > > FOR FAMILY AND SOCIAL APPROVAL. Even as a
> small
> > > child, I always knew
> > > > I was a boy, and had started secretly calling
> > > myself David by the age
> > > > of 9. At the age of 11 I introduced myself to
> my
> > > closest friend as
> > > > David. At that time (and for years to come) I
> > > still showed no
> > > > obvious external signs of being intersexed,
> that
> > > my family or others
> > > > could detect. Still I was extremely
> > > neurologically fetally
> > > > androgenized, even to the extent of 'knowing'
> I
> > > was 'really a boy'.
> > > > So it is entirely possible that HPB had some
> > > late-virilizing form of
> > > > intersex and a persistent sense of a masculine
> > > self, but developed a
> > > > feminine familial and public persona for
> survival
> > > reasons.
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Bhakti
> Ananda
> > > Goswami
> > > > <bhakti.eohn@v...>" <bhakti.eohn@v...> wrote:
> > > > > Dear Paul,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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