Re: Theos-World HPB and the Nazi doctrines
Dec 25, 2002 04:35 PM
by Steve Stubbs " <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Bart Lidofsky <bartl@s...> wrote:
> Well, Blavatsky was long dead when the Nazi's started.
Excellenmt point. Amd neomg dead, cannot reasonably be held
responsible for a movement with which she had nothing to do.
Many attribute
> the statements of Alice Bailey, who, in spite of her spiritual
> connections, was something of a bigot
It should also be added that Bailey started her own thing and was
neither a coworker with Blavatsky, nor, structly speaking, a
Theosophist.
> There are no "sub-races" alive that are inferior to the Aryans.
I don't disagree with what you are saying from the absolute
standpoint, but I wonder if this is an accurate interpretation of
speifically Blavatsky.
First
> of all, ALL human beings alive today are Aryans.
Doesn't "Aryan" mean you are descended from the people who spoke the
Indo-European language in ancient times and invaded India and
Europe? English is an "Aryan" language, whereas Henbrew is Semitic.
There are in addition the Turanian, Akkadian, etc. If you are
arguing that long intermarriage has mooted the whole question of race
you are probably correct.
Second of all, the
> Aryans are a result of an INVOLUTIONARY path from previous races
rather
> than an EVOLUTIONARY path
Technically, in the SD, the involution was completed by the fourth
race, whereas the Aryam, being the fifth, is the first race on the
evolutionary track. I am not saying that I beliueve that, but that
it is what Blavatsky said.
The term "Aryan" refers to the
> CIVILIZATION, not the actual ancestry
Max Mueller originally applied the term to languages, butlater to
religions which were polytheistic and anthropomorphic rather than
monotheistic and idealistic. The Greeks and Romans, who worshipped
human beings were practicing a characteristically "Aryan" religion,
whereas the Semitic peoples, who rejected polytheism and the idea
that their deity was human or could be represented in human form,
were not. I am summarizing Mueller here, and not stating views of my
own.
It is notale in view of Mueller's ideas that Christianity, which
originated as an offshoot of a Semitic religion, took on what Mueller
would have characterized as distinctly "Aryan" characteristics,
inasmuch as it posited multiple deities (the trinity) and inasuch as
at least one of the was a human being who is represented in art in
human form. This is easily explained in terms ofthe strong Hellenic
influence on the Palestine area in the first century.
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