Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00661)

Hi. Jung had some interesting ideas, and was very creative, but his approach was interpretive, which is problematic, as analysis cannot grasp the whole, and therefore only leads to a seeming "solution" which is fragmented and not complete. His idea of the UFO as a protective mandala, for example, was very interesting, but does it really fit? There is probably some sort of truth there, but the generalization is too loose. Interpretations seem to be molded to fit a preconceived idea of an archetype. This means that one starts with an interpretation and then goes back to it for further interpretation, as if it is the ground. In this way we do not get to the real ground but only further from it. 

Another example is his interpretation that the behavior of the Germanic people in world war two was due to the unleashing of the force of a primitive, god, Wotan, and this all happened because the Germanic people were ripped from their natural heritage when the nation prematurely had Christianity forced upon it. Very creative and interesting, but also, simplistic. It sounds quite good, but is it really true? There is no way to know, moreover the broad generalization overrides not only details that may be significant, but also perhaps the possibility for solutions to the problems of humanity, real solutions that come out of the seeing of the whole.

Jung suspected that the secret hidden in all ancient teachings is that the human being is the creative force of the universe, and this may be true, but he ignored the question of how to BE this. He was, in my opinion, an insidious idealist. He has not discovered phenomena such as synchronicity and the group unconscious, but merely called attention to them, which possibly has some limited benefit, though even this has probably caused more harm than good. Ultimately he encouraged people to build their houses upon the sand of la la, and this has, in my opinion, retarded the development of humanity. 

I know there are probably some on here who are intrigued by Jung. His influence is all over the internet, even science lists, like a cheap suit. We all want to be creative and understand how to dream, but a better approach to achieving LUCIDITY would be to learn how to NOT DREAM when we are so-called awake. 

And then we have the problem of the interpreter as authority. If it is looked at carefully, a subtle but very real correlation can be seen between analysis, authority and idealism. In interpretation there is always a false ground, as it cannot factor incoming details. The acceptance of this false ground is based on the belief in the ABILITY of the authority to interpret correctly. This is idealism, plain and simple. 

I am a lover of fairy tales, and from childhood, this has shaped my life. My specialty is the study of the language of word roots and the deciphering of symbolism ancient art, carpets, folk literature, religious symbolism in writing and rituals, even dreams. I am a very skilled interpreter of dreams and will try to leave a message about dreams some time, but to presume to interpret this material for others is ignorant. You cannot tell a child what a fairy tale means, as it is designed so that each individual must and can naturally correlate to it in such a way that fits his own understanding. But if a person does not know how to actively and consciously MAKE, the dream will not materialize, and one does not learn how to make by studying a fairytale, but rather by studying oneself in relationship to the external universe. If this study is not done first, the rest is premature, it turns into wishy-wash. A genuine wish needs to be well conceived and to have a practical purpose.

So we don't dream we are wishing to stop a war. We study ourselves in our daily little wars, and in the beginning wish to make this study. I understand that my message may appear bland because I am not using fancy, scientific terms. This is because I do not need to. It is not necessary, in this case, and it would therefore be a waste of time and energy to do so.

This is my Christmas message. I hope it does not trouble any dreamers with sleep dust in their eyes, but rather encourages the genuine visionary, who is always mason, to find his rainbow. So, I end with a question, what is the inner symbolism of the words, Santa Claus, which actually unlocks the whole puzzle of this wonderful fable, including the meaning of the north pole, sleigh with reindeer, the chimney, and the bringing of presents. Bear with this little Christmas puzzle and you will be well rewarded. Sincerely, Wry





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