Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00556)

Anyone who analyses material for another encourages both authority and
subjectivity as opposed to freedom and objectivity. I will be back with more
on this subject. Sadly, Jung is not "on the outs" as you put it. People who
idolize him and perpetrate his la la ideas are all over the internet like a
cheap suit. His work is admittedly very appealing and charismatic, but it is
throwing good smart people, even some scientists who are desperately
searching for a solution to humanity's problems, off the track.

The main thing he did, besides popularizing an interest in alchemy, was to
observe and document the existence of a few phenomena such as the
group-unconscious and synchronicity, which was not so terrible and no big
deal. He also pointed to a possible but very questionable so called
phenomena, archetypes, which is more problematic to me. An interesting
perspective to consider is that each off ideas is an oxymoron of sorts: one
does not need to know them, as it serves no function to do so. To talk about
them as if they are commodities that can be dealt with in fractions, rather
then as a by-product of the whole, encourages a subtle form of IDEALISM.
This is my perspective and it may be difficult to understand, but if you
can, it will change you. The evil he did was to place great value, as did
Freud, on individual subjective interpretation, which people are already
doing too much of. To do it even further so will get people no where. I have
been planning to talk about Jung for some time and will try to get to it
soon. Wry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mic Forster" <micforster@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: Theos-World defrauded by psychologists


>
> --- "Steve Stubbs <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>"
> > As for Freud, that humbug is in decline and is
> > expected by those who
> > predict trends in the world psychological to become
> > more and more
> > irrelevant as time goes on. Having met several
> > peopple who have been
> > defrauded by psychoanalysts, I consider the demise
> > of their
> > profession to be an excellent outcome.
> >
>
>
> Steve, do you mean psychoanalysis as a whole or just
> the Freudian interpretation of it? More specifically,
> do you believe, or those powers who predict the trends
> believe, that Jungian psychology is also on the outer?
> If Jung is on the outer do you know, or those powers
> who predict the trends know, what is on the way in?
>
>
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