Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00429)

Hi, Paul:

One point. If there us such a thing as a "left wing website" that 
fact should be covered up, since as everyone knows only the right 
wing point of view is true, solid, honest, and reliable. Statements 
to the contrary are lies that should be vigorously opposed or 
suppressed

Anyway, despite the orgy of self congragulation that goes on here I 
have yet to see an opinion about whether it is safe to donate organs 
or whether Ralph Houston is right that this might generate disastrous 
karms which would ripen in one's next life. If one believes in 
future lives, that is a serious issue, perhaps even more so than 
fighting for the dominance of the ULT. It becomes an even more 
serious issue when one considers that this is big business and that 
one's organs may ba harvested (and karma generated or not) without 
one's consent.

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "kpauljohnson <kpauljohnson@y...>" 
<kpauljohnson@y...> wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I would concur that political discussion is inappropriate here, but 
we should all understand Eldon's reluctance to play policeman. When 
ULTers start going on about unnamed people who shouldn't be here and 
ideas that shouldn't be discussed, I can't help suspecting that 
they'd prefer to get rid of every active participant who doesn't 
parrot the ULT party line. When it is said that people on "ego 
trips" should go away, I think "be careful what you wish for" because 
a god granting that wish might remove a lot of you true believers 
along with some of us heathen.
> 
> Although my political sympathies are quite different from those of 
Bart, Larry, and Bill, I consider them friends and have no desire to 
debate politics with them here or elsewhere. People who want 
spirited liberal debate are advised to check out 
> http://democraticunderground.com 
> There are comparable rightwing sites.
> 
> There is a happy medium between defining theosophical discussion so 
narrowly as to exclude "everyone but me and thee" and defining it so 
broadly as to allow any old thing. Eldon surely has the judgment to 
do this, but do we want to burden him with enforcing guidelines about 
theosophical discussion topics? 
> 
> What I propose: put some guidelines in the list description about 
what is off-topic here. Then, when someone posts something off-
topic, instead of arguing with it, (BART) just say "that's off-
topic." And most especially (DALLAS, LEON) don't write vague 
sweeping posts denouncing multiple unnamed miscreants who ought not 
be here, and implicitly asking Eldon to get rid of them. Just 
say "Hey, Steve, (or whoever) that's off-topic." That way you are 
taking responsibility for objecting to specific posts by specific 
posters, rather than (IMO) polluting the atmosphere with 
denunciations of a generic class of unnamed, unwelcome participants. 
That's carrying ULT "impersonality" to a destructive extreme.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul