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From: "Bhakti Ananda Goswami <bhakti.eohn@v...>" <bhakti.eohn@v...> 
Date: Sat Dec 7, 2002 6:21 pm
Subject: A VAISHNAVA RESPONDS TO POST 29323

 
 

From: "brianmuehlbach <brianmuehlbach@y...>" <brianmuehlbach@y...> 
Date: Sat Dec 7, 2002 1:18 am
Subject: The Census co-created Hinduism Today ?

A VAISHNAVA RESPONDS TO POST 29323

Bhakti Ananda Goswami's COMMENTS AT >>>> 


With the advent of missionary activity in the 19th century, the claim 
that 
`Christians were already Hindu' managed to diminish the threat of 
conversion to Christianity. 

Diminution of the Threat from Buddhism - Ambedkar led a mass Black 
Untouchable movement of conversion Buddhism in order to escape the 
astika Brahmanist (Vedic, Vaishnava) caste system. The claim that 
Buddhists were in any case Hindu served to diminish any threat from 
Buddhism. 

>>>This reactionary movement to the oppression of the dark-
skinned 'dalits' by the 'aryan'
birth-caste adwaiti 'Vedic' and often Ram-associated Vaishnava 
Brahmins in South India
continues to gather steam at the present. Often this reactionary 
movement is fueled by
blatant disinformation campaigns and lies against Vaishnavism such as 
the "protocols of Zion"-like 
disinformation campaign promoting the now tragically pervasive idea 
that the vanaras forest-dwellers 
in the Ramayana were actually dark-skinned Dravidians enslaved as sub-
human 'monkeys' by the white
Aryan race hero RAMA. Along with this completely baseless idea is 
the allied one that the demons
or asuras of the Ramayana were also dark skinned Dravidians. This 
racist reading of the Ramayana is 
a purely modern phenomenon, which WAS Promoted by the British and 
their Euro-aryanist allies
to drive a wedge between the lighter-skinned caste brahmins and 
Theravadin Buddhists of India 
and Sri Lanka and the darker skinned, often Shaivite Tamils of South 
India and Sri Lanka. 
The Europeans projected their 'white' aryanist racism onto the 
ancient Sanskrit Vedic and Vaishnava 
scriptures, inventing the 'aryan invasion' myth to support their 
global campaign for white-racist 
imperial domination of the world. Thus they re-imagined the high 
civilizations of India and Egypt as 
the product of THEIR OWN REMOTE ANCESTORS, THE 'WHITE ARYAN' 
INVADERS. To promote
this idea, they reinterpreted and in some cases redacted Sanskrit 
Shastras / scriptures. They re-interpreted
the vedic-Vaishnava Purusha Sukta Hymn as promoting birth-caste-ism 
by insisting that the varnas of the 
mystical sacramental social body of the cosmic Purusha referred to 
racial colors, and not to a symbolism 
connected to the gunas and occupational 'modes' of being and work. 
They also re-interpreted, redacted and 
aggressively promoted, with their printing presses and educational 
systems, other ancient Sanskrit 'aryan' Vedic
Literatures from the perspective of their own 'white' racism. In 
doing-so, they laid the ground-work for 
the Aryan versus Dravidian defined wars of Sri Lanka and South and 
other innumerable atrocities ever since. 
The Theosophical thought-leaders were involved in this aryanist myth-
making . Olcott spent a great deal of effort 
in Sri Lanka promoting aryanism among the Sinhalese Theravadin 
Buddhists. With an alliance with the Buddhists, 
Olcott used his influence to diffuse Aryanism globally via a movement 
for Theravadin Buddhist unity. Thus racist 
aryanism was spread exoterically by the colonialist governments of 
Europe and Russia, esoterically by the 
occult and secret societies of Theosophy-related groups (including 
forms of Indian, Persian and Arab racist Sufism),
and exoterically by the racist elite (often mayavadi and smarta) 
brahmins of India and the Elite priests and monastics of Theravadin 
Buddhism, where ever it was connected to the Sri Lankan led movement 
for Buddhist Unity. In the next century 
this Buddhist aryanism would significantly unite some Theravadin Zen 
Japanese, Sri Lankan Theravadin and Nepalese-Tibetan Theravadin 
Buddhists in their aryanist support of the Third Reich. 

>>>>I would like to suggest to anyone who thinks that the claimed 
racist reading of the Ramayana is 
authentic, that they should look at the illustrations of the Ramayana 
commissioned by Akbar in 1582. 
These full-color miniatures can be viewed from the Freer Gallery of 
Art at the Smithsonian Institution,
Washington , D. C., U.S. A.. They are also available in publications 
such as the Palace Publishing Edition 
of "The Illustrated Ramayana". In these illustrations Rama, the 
Epic's Hero, an Incarnation of Vishnu, is
depicted as black, gray, blue or greenish, but NEVER as a 'white' 
human racial 'aryan'. Furthermore, 
Hanumat (Hanuman) and the other VANARA FOREST DWELLERS are real 
monkeys with tails, and the
ASURA demons are giant multi-colored shape-shifting monsters. Ravana 
their demon leader (a 'white' skinned
brahmin by the way) has ten heads and twenty arms. The other demons 
and demonesses are also clearly 
giant shape-shifting non human monsters with bizarre forms and 
colors. So the reading that the Ramayana 
is a story about a white 'aryan' race-hero's subjugation of the dark-
skinned natives of South India and 
Sri Lanka is ridiculous. 


The English census-compilers created Hinduism in the 1830s as a 
blanket term for several communities, but arbitrarily excluded 
Buddhism 
(since it was found in East Asia) and Jainism. It is thus not 
surprising 
that many `native' scholars have classed Jainism and Buddhism as 
`Hindu'. In favor of Jainism and Buddhism being merely `Hindu' 
religions, the following points have been put forward: 

>>>>Jainism and Mahayana Buddhism share a common language of belief 
with Vaishnavism, thus when
the World Hindu Organization formed under the Patronage of the late 
lamented King of Nepal,
H. M. King Birendra, the entire "family of Hindu ' Indic Sanskrity" 
INCLUDING JAINIS AND MAHAYANA
BUDDHISM was included in its membership. I sat on the Executive 
Committee of this Organization in Kathmandu,
and saw Jain and Buddhist leaders enthusiastically participating 
there. Sanskrit, the 'aryan' (but NOT RACIST) language of the Vedas 
unites all the later Vedic-Related (thus Indus or 'Hindu') traditions 
INCLUDING THE JAIN, MAHAYANA
BUDDHIST, SHAIVITE, SHAKTA, VAISHNAVA, ADVAITI etc. traditions. 

Buddha and the Jain Tirthankaras are classed as incarnations of 
Vishnu 
in Aryan Vaishnavite literature. 

>>>>>>>This is a fact. Black Krishnas and white Balas and the 
Krishna of the Gita are also mentioned in Jain lore. The Mahayana 
Buddhist Forms of Amitabha and Lokeshvara are Forms of Krishna-
Vishnu, and the M. Buddhist Names of Amitabha-Lokesvara are Names of 
Krishna-Vishnu. 

The Tamil epic poem Manimekalai mentions the 6 systems of philosophy 
current in India in the early centuries AD as the Lokayata, Bauddha, 
Sankhya, Nyaya, Vaiseshika and Mimamsa, and thus a Brahmanist 
author claims that " the Bauddha and Lokayata far from being non-
Hindu, formed 2 of the 6 Hindu systems" [ Man.Mek. canto xxvii ][ 
1800, 
p.225 ]. The auther then concludes that the Europeans have made a 
mistake in classifying Buddhists and Jains as separate religions, and 
that 
these persons are Hindus ! 

>>>>>>It all depends on how 'Hindu' is being defined. The Nepalese-
based World Hindu Organization (this is NOT the Vishva Hindu 
Parishad of India) defined 'Hindu' as inclusive of all those Indic 
Traditions belonging to the family of Vedic-related Sanskrity.

To further strengthen his point, he claims 
that the mistake was due to the Europeans following Madhvacharya's 
`Sarva-darsana-sangraha' of the 14th century, which mentions 6 
systems : 1. purva Mimamsa, 2. Uttara Mimamsa or Vedanta, 3. 
Sankhya, 4. Yoga, 5. Nyaya, 6. Vaiseshika. Since this list did not 
include 
Jains, Buddhists and Atheist Carvaks, these were not included by the 
Europeans as Hindus [ 1800,p.225 ]. 

>>>>>>>Madhvacarya was describing the traditional orthodox systems of 
Vedic Thought. Furthermore the modern classification
of "Hindu" would not have been known to Sri Madhvacharya. 

In late 1998, the Hindu (ie. astika Brahminist, or Orthodox 
Vaishnavite) 
Fundamentalist party, the BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party), then the 
ruling 
party of the Government of India, issued several statements that the 
Buddhists were Hindus. Other statements also claimed that the Muslims 
were mostly converted from `Hindus' (a fact long controverted by the 
English census, which showed that even in Bengal half of the Muslims 
were of `Foreign' origin). This coincided with widespread violence 
against Christians, Muslims and Buddhists, with attempts to 
`reconvert' 
the `lost' Hindus. 

>>>>>>>This author's perception of the BJP is rather strange. Has he 
ever heard of SHAIVISM ? Doesn't he know about the long oppression 
of hundreds of millions of Vaishnavas by the non-Vaishnava caste 
brahmanas ? Why is it traditionally joked all over India that the 
Brahmin devotees of Shiva are rich and powerful while the devotees of 
Vishnu are poor and powerless ? Why did Gandhiji call the 
Untouchables the HARI-JANAS or CHILDREN OF HARI (KRISHNA), and why 
did hundreds of millions of poor Vaishnavas follow the Pranami and 
RAMA VAISHNAVA Gandhi in his stand against BOTH THE BRITISH and all 
forms of undemocratic, racist and class oppression? 


Thus, the noble faith of Buddhism has been insulted and denigrated by 
being included in the Hindu monolith of Vedic apartheid, sati and 
dowry-
burning - 


>>>>>Using these anti-Hindu buzz-words of the Dalit Movement, this 
author clearly suffers from extreme, blinding anti-Vaishnava 
prejudice, of the kind exhibited by the long-oppressed South India 
Dalits who have bought-into the anti-Ramayan "we are not your 
monkeys' movement. While I am sympathetic to his cause to free the 
Dalits and others oppressed by racism and caste-ism, it saddens me 
that he is unable to realize that his thinking has been corrupted by 
Euro-aryanism, so that he cannot understand who the real enemy of 
Indian brotherhood and solidarity is. 

" Advani delivered himself of some newfangled wisdom on November 6 
at Sarnath, while addressing an "international" seminar on "World 
Unity 
in the Buddha's Trinity" as part of the Buddha Mahotsav organised by 
Union Tourism Minister Madan Lal Khurana, and much publicised in the 
media in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. The Buddha, he declared, "did not 
announce any new religion. He was only restating with a new emphasis 
the ancient ideals of the Indo-Aryan civilisation." According to The 
Telegraph (November 7), "Advani said (the) Buddha derived his 
teachings from the Bhagvad Gita and was an avatar of Vishnu." 
-- [ Bidwai ] 

The bigoted Vaishnavas have also made many attempts to subvert the 
separate religion of Jainism to the `Hindu' yoke. Naturally, the 
Jains 
have valiantly resisted these sinister attempts to destroy their 
religion 
and heritage, as is evident from the following recent press release : 

" Jains demand minority status 
Sunday, February 14, 1999 The Indian Express 
PUNE: The national conference of Jains Saturday passed a resolution 
to 
recommend to central government to include Jains in the list of 
minority 
communities . The conference, 'Jain Action 99', organised by 'Jain 
Sahyog' also passed a resolution that out of the expenses which the 
Jain 
community spends on religious functions, some part should be kept 
aside to promote education, social and cultural activities of the 
Jain 
community in the local areas, reports PTI. 

Another resolution urged for creating unity among Jain groups of 
different castes and sects and to bring all the national as well as 
local 
level organisations together to form a pressure group at the national 
level. The conference also mooted health projects by providing 
homeopathic medical service to the community. Among other states, 
delegates from Gujarat, Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, 
Delhi and Maharashtra were participating in the two-day conference. 
Dalchand Jain, treasurer of All India Congress Committee, in his 
inaugural speech called for preserving ancient Jain temples in a 
better 
way. He also called for setting up of hostels for Jain students. 
Milind 
Phade, chairman of Jain Sahyog, outlined the purpose of the 
conference. 
Assistant editor of 'Maharashtra Times' Ashok Jain released a special 
issue of 'Divya Shakti', a booklet on Jain community. " 
-- [ Min_J ] 

>>>>>>This is an extremely important point. When I was meeting with 
religious and governmental leaders in Sri Lanka, India and Nepal in 
1982, I was repeatedly told by all the Vaishnava, Shaivite, Jain, 
Sikh and other leaders about the problems caused to ALL religious 
communities by the secular and communist-influenced government's 
insistence on lumping all the groups politically into the single 
category of "Hindu" as opposed to "Muslim'. Funds to support 
communities, for education, social services, infrastructure, to 
restore temples, preserve heritage and archeological sites...funds 
for everything were tied-to obliterating "sectarian differences" and 
accepting the government's one-category-fits-all "Hindu" political 
label. The effect was that if a group insisted on preserving its 
unique identity and heritage by not identifying itself on the census 
as part of the generic 'Hindu' category, it would become a 
governmental non-entity, and be deprived of all future tax-dollar 
paid services. Thus the secular government was using the tax dollar 
developmental monies purse-strings for anti-"communal' social 
engineering. 
The above example of the Jains' efforts to fight this is a good one, 
but it gives the erroneous impression that the Vaishnavas and 
other "sectarian' and 'communal' groups are not ALSO subjected to the 
same anti-religious and ultimately genocidal forces to conform-or die-
of-neglect. 

8.2 Judeo-Christian Hindus 
Indeed, so vague is the definition of `Hinduism' that one can include 
Jews and Christians in it ! This has already been done by our bigoted 
Brahminists and Vaishnavas. 
Jews 
Who has put forth the claims that Jews are Hindus ? A Pandit from 
Kashi 
Mandir ? Or an Acharya from Poona Vedic Institute ? No ! A European 
Aryan friend of the Brahmin Aryans has put forward these claims. 
Madame Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society, which 
originated the Nazi version of the Aryan race theory, wrote: 

" Megasthenes says that the Jews were an Indian sect called Kalani, 
and 
their theology resembled that of the Indians. Other authors also 
suspect 
that the colonized Jews or the Judeans were the Yadus from 
Afghanistan -- the old India. " 
-- [ Isis.I, p.567 ] 
Madame Blavatsky notes that the old French scholar Jacolliot, who 
lived 
in the 19th century, had already realized that India was the cradle 
of 
humanity. The august Jacolliot derived the Books of Moses from India: 

" He [ Jacolliot ] shows the sources whence proceeded the revelations 
of 
all the ancient creeds, including the inspired Books of Moses, and 
points 
to India directly as the cradle of humanity, the parent of all other 
nations." 
-- [ Isis.I, p.584 ] 
What these citations show is that the main culprits in the spread of 
the 
bogus Hindu-Aryan race theories were European Aryans, who were 
bolstering their race pride. 

>>>>>>One of the tragic things about the disinformation of the 
European Aryanists is that it has polluted the entire field of 
Indological studies. Aryanism really pervaded the western 
humanities. As a result, real unbiased inquiry into the ancient 
relationships between the Eastern, Levantine, Afro-Egyptian and 
European cultures has been severely inhibited. Any evidence for real 
ancient interactions between the African and Semitic and Indic 
civilizations has been contaminated by the nonsense racial aryanist 
speculations of the Euro-Aryanists. At present, one good thing to 
come out of the Dravidian pride movement, is a new look at the 
possible connections between Agamic Shaivism and other S. Indian 
traditions, and those of very ancient Sumer, Akkad, the traditions of 
the Biblical Western Semites in general, and traditions of Africa. 

>>>>>All the above and below aryanist 'historical' nonsense is 
typical of the bizarre mixture of truth, fantasy and out-rite racist 
lies being promulgated by various fanatical aryanist 'Hindu' groups 
today. Over the years I have written letters to the authors of some 
of the outrageous claims made in this post, refuting them and 
demanding the lies be retracted. This has not made me very popular 
with the Hindu aryanist fanatics whether Advaiti, Vaishnava or 
Shaivite. Fanatical Hindu Aryanism does unite the elite powerful 
brahmins of India as a pro-Brahmin, anti-everyone else POLITICAL, not 
religious entity. 

>>>>>>The authors and promulgators of some of the below ideas are 
also HEAVILY INFLUENCED by the Western Occult traditions, and have 
wholly adopted some of their racist Aryanist, anti-Semitic and anti-
Catholic lies and doctrines from these sources. In reviewing a 
recent book by ISKCON's popular historical-fiction-as-fact writer 
Stephen Knapp (2000 World Relief Network) it is noteworthy that not 
only is his work pervaded by Rosicrucian, Masonic and Theosophical 
ideas, but he actually sites western esotericists like Spencer Lewis, 
and New Age occult 'wisdom' pseudo-historians like Kersten as 
quotable authorities alongside bona fide scholars, as if there is no 
difference ! In the above and below statements, some of which come 
from Knapp's book and the very popular bizarre writings of P.N. Oak, 
Western esoteric sources have been used. Above Louis Jaccoliot, and 
his avid Theosophical Society promoter H.P. Blavatsky are both 
mentioned. Theosophy-related and New Age influenced Eastern and 
Western Vaishnava sites on the internet often refer to the 
imaginative esoteric and aryanist teachings of persons like 
Blavatsky, Jaccoliot, Nicholas Notovitch, Eliaphas Levi, Spencer 
Lewis, Manly P. Hall, Kersten, Gruber and the spurious 'Tomb of 
Jesus' esoteric Sufism related Amahdiyya Muslims. P.N. Oak's 
rabidly fanatic writings are very popular in some Hindu and Vaishnava 
circles. None of Oak's or Knapp's fans seem to have any ability to 
discriminate between authentic historical scholarship and the 
imaginative fictions of the esoteric channeled 'masters; and their 
earthly spokespersons. 

>>>>How very sad, and how sad that the author of this letter has 
bought-into all of this aryanist nonsense and allowed it to define 
his relationship to 'Hinduism'. 

>>>>>Praying for an end to the Era of Lies and Aryanism and the Dawn 
of a new Era of Truth and Human Brotherhood and Solidarity, 

>>>>your aspiring servant, 

>>>>>Bhakti Ananda Goswami


Christians 
Thus the Jews are Hindus ! What about Christians ? The `neo-Hindu' 
sect of ISCKON amply brings out the Aryan feeling that the Christians 
are Hindu: 

" Christ comes from the Greek word Christos, and Christos is the 
Greek 
version of the word Krsna... `Christ is simply another way of saying 
`Krsta', and `Krsta' is another way of pronouncing Krishna. " 
-- [ Christ ] 

All civilization in the world is claimed to be `Hindu' by the bigoted 
Brahmins ! 
" Almost every single monument in the world is claimed to be a Hindu 
mandir. `Vishwa Hindu,' the VHP journal, claims that the Taj Mahal is 
Tejo Mahalaya - a Shiva temple. Jerusalem is Yedushayam , or the 
shrine of the Lord of Yadus -- Krishna. St. Paul's Cathedral in 
London is 
originally "Gopal Krishna Mandir" . The Kaaba in Mecca was a gigantic 
Vishnu temple, Paris was Panneshwaram , etc., and everybody in the 
world is supposed to accept this unquestioningly because it is the 
VHP's 
faith! " 
-- [ Name ] 
8.3 Muslims are Hindu 
Indeed, the Muslims have on several occasions been declared to be 
Hindus and the bulk of Indian Muslims have been fallaciously claimed 
to 
be `converted Hindus'. The shrine of the Kaaba at Mecca, revered by 
the Muslims, was actually a shrine of Saturn, god of the Nabataeans. 
This is generally accepted even by Muslims, and the contribution of 
Nabataeanism to Islam is universally recognised. Yet the Aryan 
Vaishnavites claim that this Saturn was actually Shiva, and that the 
Muslims are thus Hindus ! None other than the proto-Nazi Madame 
Blavatsky set forth this claim: 
" Now we have to remember that Siva and the Palestinian Baal or 
Moluch, and Saturn are identical; that Abraham is held unitl the 
present 
day by the Mahometan Arabs as Sasturn in the Kaaba, that Abraham 
and Israel are names of Saturn, and that the Sanchoniathon tells us 
that 
Saturn offered his only-begotten son as a sacrifice to his father 
Ouranos, and even cirumcised himself and forced all his household and 
allies to do th esame, to trace unerringly the biblical myth to its 
source, 
But this source is neither Phenician, nor Chaldean; it is purely 
Indian, 
and the original may be found in the Maha-Bharata." 
-- [ Isis.I.578 ] 
A paper presented at the World Hindu Conference at Columbo in April 
1982 claimed that "The Hajrul Aswad (Kaaba, the Black Stone) is only 
a 
form of Shivalinga." [ Name ] 

So the wars between the Prophet of Islam Mohammed and the Arab 
pagans were between Hindus and Muslims ! A suitable excuse for the 
Hindutva fanatics to extend their mythical Hindu-Muslim conflict 
further 
back into history ! - 

" Before the rise of Islam, there lived in Arabia many Hindus, mostly 
Brahmans, who settled there observing Hindu religious customs 
including the worship of Shiva as Makkesha [ Mahesha ] from which the 
name of Mecca is said to be derived." 
-- [ Vision.183 ] 
No doubt, the recently acquired Brahmin nuclear bombs may find a 
pious 
target in the quest for building a Ram-mandir at Mecca ! 
One can find this and much more on the `proof' that all races and 
religions in the world are derived from `Hinduism' in the article [ 
Against ] . 

8.4 Hindu Americans 
Chamanlal, in his book, `Hindu America', has shown that the Native 
American Indians were Hindus ! Not Columbus, but the ancient Hindus 
were the discoverers of America ! - 
" The belief of these Americans in the 4 Hindu Yugas (epochs), their 
gurukal scheme of education, Panchayat system, worship of Indra, 
Ganesha and other Hindu gods, practice of Hindu religious dances, and 
child-birth, marriage and death ceremonies, including Sati, prove 
beyond doubt that the Hindus were the first to discover America." 
-- [ Chamanlal cited in Vision.182 ] 
Madame Blavatsky has also `proven', using her own contradictory 
Brahminist logic, that the pre-Columbian American Indian population 
of 
the Americas were Hindus - 
" Now it is easy to see that the excavators of Ellora, the builders 
of the 
old Pagodas, the architects of Copan and of the ruins of Central 
America, those of Nagkon-Wat, and those of the Egyptian remains were, 
if not of the same race, at least of the same religion -- the one 
taught in 
the oldest Mysteries. Besides, the figures on the walls of Angkor are 
purely archaic, and have nothing to do with the images and idols of 
Buddha, who may be of a far later origin." 
-- [ Isis.I, p.567 ] 
Madame Blavatsky derived the name of America, not from the name of 
Amerigo Vespucci, as claimed by the Spanish missionaries, but from 
Meru, the Holy Mountain of Hindus. [ `On the True Origin of the Name 
America', Isis.I.531 ] In this manner she `bolstered' her theory. 
Not only the eccentric Blavatsky (later found to be a fraud 
`medium'), 
but even serious researchers like Humboldt have made such absurd 
claims: 

" Humboldt says that Hindu customs and manners were prevalent in 
America when the Europeans first founded colonies there. An icon 
discovered in Mexico shows that the Hindu god Ganesha was 
worshipped there ... Temples in Mexico are modelled on those of South 
India." 
-- [ Vision, p.181 ] 
So no doubt, the conflict between Christian conquistadors and Native 
Americans was one between Hindus and Chrisitians, a prequel of the 
later conflicts between Hindus and Christians in India ! 
8.5 The Whole World is Hindu ! 
Elaborating on their hypothetical theories, the Brahminists have 
claimed 
that not only is the whole world Hindu, but that all races in their 
racial 
origins are Hindus, which for Brahminists means Aryans. Noted 
Bharatiya Vidyalaya scholar Shri Talageri has described the migration 
of 
Aryans from U.P. to different parts of the India: 
" [ T ]he Indo-Europeans of south eastern Uttar Pradesh migrated to 
the 
west and setled down in the northwestern areas of Punjab, Kashmir and 
the further north west, where they differentiated into 3 groupd: the 
Purus (in the Punjab), the Anus (in Kashmir) and the Druhyus (in 
northwestern Afghanistan). Meanwhile, there remained various Indo-
Europeans still in the interior of India, the Yadus in northern 
Maharasthra, Gujarat and Western UP, Ikshvakus in northeastern UP 
(and perhaps also in Dakshina Kosala in eastern MP) and the Pramsus 
in 
Bihar, to name only those of them clearly mentioned in the Puranas" 
-- [ Tala.Ch.23 ] 
He then goes on to describe how the Aryans spread throughout the 
world: 
"Meanwhile, major sections of Anus spread out all over Western Asia 
and developed into various Iranian cultures. The Druhyus spread out 
into 
Europe in two instalments: the speakers of the proto-Germanic dialect 
first migrated northwards and then westwards, and then later the 
speakers of the proto-Hellenic and proto-Italic Celtic dialects moved 
into 
Europe by a different, more southern, route." 
-- [ Tala.Ch.23 ] 
But these ideas are not original, Talageri xeroxed them from Madame 
Blavatsky, who had propounded these ideas set forth in the Puranas, 
in 
addition to her concept of the Aryan root race that was later adopted 
by 
the Nazis : 
" There is a passage in a well-known Hindu work which may well be 
recalled in this connection. " Under the reign of Viswamitra, first 
king of 
the Dynasty of Soma-Vanga, in consequence of a battle which lasted 
five 
days, Manu-VIna, heir of the ancient kings, being abandoned by the 
Brahmans, emigrated with all his companions, passing through Arya, 
and the countries of Bactria, till he came to the shores of Masra " 
(History of India, by Collouca-Batta). Unquestionably this Manu-Vina 
and 
Menes, the first Egyptian King, are identical. 
Arya is Eran (Persia); Barria, is Arabia, and Masra, was the name of 
Cairo, which to this day is called, Masr, musr, and Misro. Phoenician 
hisory names Maser as one of the ancestors of Hermes. " 
-- [ Isis.I.627 ] 
And how did these Hindus reach America from the Holy Land ? Perhaps 
by some kind of prehistoric aircraft ? Oh yes, that has also been 
discovered ! Our Brahmins claim that aircraft were used during the 
Mahabharat War and by Rama ! So it is obviously by means of these 
machines that they reached America. But perhaps this is also obivous 
from the native Americans being called `Indian'. Of course Columbus, 
with his infinite kownledge, could not have made the mistake of 
calling 
them Indian without any reason ! Praise be to the Hindus, who 
colonied 
the world ! 
Of course, the Dravidians are not Negroes, but are merely degraded 
Aryans ! - 

" The difference between the so-called Aryans of the north and the 
Dravidians of the south or other communities of Indian subcontinent 
is 
not a racial type. Biologically all are the same Caucasian type, only 
when 
closer to the equator the skin gets darker, and under the influence 
of 
constant heat the bodily frame tends to get a little smaller . And 
these 
differences can not be the basis of two altogether different races. 
Similar differences one can observe even more distinctly among the 
people of pure Caucasian white race of Europe. Caucasian can be of 
any 
color ranging from pure white to almost pure black, with every shade 
of 
brown in between. " 
-- [ Agra ] 

And Vivekananda, has written that the Sudras and all races of manking 
are degraded from the Brahmins: 

"And the theory that the Shudra caste were all non-Aryans and they 
were a multitude, is equally illogical and irrational. It could not 
have 
been possible in those days that a few Aryans settled and lived there 
with a hundred thousand slaves at their command. The slaves would 
have eaten them up, made chutney of them in five minutes. The only 
explanation is to be found in the Mahabharat, which says that in the 
beginning of the Satya Yoga there was only one caste, the Brahmins, 
and then by differences of occupations they went on dividing 
themselves 
into different castes, and that is the only true and rational 
explanation 
that has been given. And in the coming Satya Yuga all other castes 
will 
have to go back to the same condition." 
-- [ Viv.III.293 ] 





 
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