Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00066)

Hi all of you,

Hi Zack. Thanks for your answer.
But, I was referring to the following sentence in the previous posted quote,
which are shown in the below.
Perhpas you just simply overlooked this:

"Mohammedanism, which
> > numbers so large a following, is also under sixth ray influence, but it
> > is NOT a great root religion, being a hybrid offshoot of Christianity
> > with the tinge of Judaism."
(Esoteric Psychology I, p.167 - written by Alice A. Bailey (and/or Master
D.K.)...)

And Alice A. Baileys use of the word "NOT" in the above has been given
(uppercase) emphasis by me !

My questions:
So what are your comments on that Zack Lansdowne ?
Do you agree with Alice A. Bailey (and/or Master D.K.) ?

I certainly don't !
I almost get fierce when I see such claims supported these days with
religious-political conflicts between the West and The Middle East!

The religious-political implications certain Bailey-groups are creating by
supporting such a view - and similar views - on Mohammedanism, will
certainly not remain unoticed by the Masters of this planet, - today in our
present international Information Society !
Such a claim as the one made by Alice A. Bailey (and/or Master D.K.) in the
above can hardly create a positive atmosphere around United Nations and its
Security Counsil, which, Lucis Trust and certain Bailey-groups in a certain
sense are connected with, because of their affiliation with the United
Nations !

I wonder what the great sufi Ibn El-Arabi would say to such a statement...

The Quran was written using some of the 7 keys mentioned by Blavatsky - on
an even higher level, (well I claim that, but I am certainly not the only
one), than the silly book, some worship as - a God - and call - THE Bible.
(A book, as Blavatsky has stated, - with more than 64.000 faults in it . A
book still today a great number of people read - using the dead-letter and
not the 7 keys. ) !



from
M. Sufilight and the sufi called "The Green Guide" --- seeking to create
peace on Earth...>:-)



----- Original Message -----
From: "Zack Lansdowne" <zackl@sprynet.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:49 PM
Subject: Theos-World Seven Rays and Religions


> M. Sufilight asked for comments regarding the following Bailey quotation:
>
> > Esoteric Psychology I, p.167
> > ********************
> >
> >
> > "Every great religion which arises is under the influence of one or
other
> of
> > the rays, but it does not necessarily follow that each successive ray
> > should have a great far-reaching religion as its outcome. We have heard
> > that Brahmanism is the last great religion which arose under first ray
> > influence; we do not know what may have been the religion which was the
> > outcome of the last second ray period; but the Chaldean, the Egyptian
> > and the Zoroastrian religions may be taken as representing the third,
> > the fourth, and the fifth rays respectively. Christianity and probably
> > Buddhism were the result of sixth ray influence. Mohammedanism, which
> > numbers so large a following, is also under sixth ray influence, but it
> > is NOT a great root religion, being a hybrid offshoot of Christianity
> > with the tinge of Judaism."
> >
> >
>
> Although the typology of the seven rays is not mentioned very much on this
> list, it is a typology that was developed during the past century by many
> theosophical writers. This typology began with Blavatsky's "Secret
> Doctrine," and was further developed by C. W. Leadbeater, Earnest Wood,
> Geoffrey Hodson, as well as Alice Bailey.
>
> In particular, Bailey was not the only writer to associate the seven rays
> with religions. C. W. Leadbeater, in "The Masters and the Path" (first
> published in 1925 by the Theosophical Publishing House) provides the
> following associations: first ray-- Brahmanical; second ray-- Buddhism;
> third ray-- Chaldean; fourth ray-- Egyptian; fifth ray-- Zoroastrian;
sixth
> ray-- Christianity; and seventh ray-- Elemental Worship.
>
> Geoffrey Hodson, in "The Seven Human Temperaments" (first published in
1952
> by the Theosophical Publishing House) provides the following associations:
> first ray-- Hinduism; second ray-- Buddhism; third ray-- Chaldean,
Egyptian;
> fourth ray-- Orphic, Egyptian; fifth ray-- Zoroastrian; sixth ray--
> Christian; seventh ray-- Ritualistic aspects of all religions, Masonry.
> Note that Hodson lists "Egyptian" under both the third and fourth rays.
>
> While there are some agreements among Bailey's, Leadbeater's and Hodson's
> associations, there are also some differences, which shows that these
three
> writers were independent and didn't simply copy each other.
>
> Zack Lansdowne
>
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