Re: Theos-World re BAG's speculations about HPB and ... ?
Dec 29, 2002 04:49 AM
by Bhakti Ananda Goswami " <bhakti.eohn@verizon.net>
Dear Mr. Leon Maurer,
Your apparent hostility towards me seems to be based on some
erroneous assumptions that you have made.
Here are the facts.
I spent the first 20 years of my life living among real girls and
women as a real girl and woman. I know vastly more about what it is
like to be treated as a girl or woman than you ever will in this
life. During and after virilizing I maintained my close
relationships with girls and women, refusing to renounce those
relationships to fit into ANY kind of sexist male society, or 'Hindu'
or 'Christian' religious hierarchy. As an advocate for women's and
minorities' rights, I fought the disempowerment and oppression of
girls and women in every way that I could...and by the way, intersex
C-AIS XY women are "REAL" women too ! I have known hundreds of
intersexed WOMEN, and these are all REAL PEOPLE /REAL WOMEN. So what
is your point about HPB being a "real women" ? Your statement sounds
sexist to me ! I doubt if you know much about what makes a person a
woman. You should read the Topical Index to my 2001 study on sex
differentiation, so that you can appreciate what a REAL woman is,
from the objective scientific and gender identity
(neuroendocrinological) point of view.
As for my background and how I treat women...
I was very close to my own dear mother who passed away in 2001. In
fact I took care of her on her death bed. She and Dad were together
for 64 years. She was a remarkably virtuous, intelligent and
talented women that my non-sexist father adored in every way. I have
been faithful to the one romantic love of my life, a REAL WOMAN, for
over 40 years. Both my brothers have strong long-lasting marriages
of EQUALITY with their wives. My son and Daughter are not sexist,
and my 7 grand daughters are not restricted in any way by sexism in
our family. I have very close relationships with my Catholic and
Vaishnava god-sisters, and as a celibate sannyasi in a traditional
male religious order, I am happy to say that I am even loved,
respected and trusted by radical feminist and lesbian Vaishnavis and
Devi (Shakti) worshipers. In fact a Vaishnava lesbian activist is
currently planning a videotape series on religion, women and sexual
minorities, that she wants me to make the major historical research
and medical /scientific contribution to.
I have cared nothing for my personal religious hierarchical position
or reputation as regards the sexism in some forms of Hinduism and
Christianity, and have boldly publicly battled both secular and
religiously-based sexism and its worst expressions in sex-selection
abortion, female 'circumcision', domestic violence, local forms of
sexual exploitation of girls and women, the international traffic in
sex slaves, Muslim, Machismo and all other forms of religiously
and/or legally sanctioned sexism and abuse of girls and women. I
have purposely and publicly violated the fanatical Hindu rules
against sannyasis associating with, speaking to, and touching women.
I have purposely hugged my godsisters and female friends and
relatives in public. Those who hate this about me say that I must
still be a women inside, even though my body changed, and I am now
medically and legally male. Thus the sexists try to invalidate my
entire adult life lived as a man, because I refuse to treat those in
female bodies any differently than I treat those in male bodies. I
am a physically affectionate and very informal person. My
principal 'rasa' or flavor of loving devotion is SAKHYA or SAKHI
RASA, or equality in friendship. Therefore I am very playful and
informal with persons of all ages and sexes. I refuse to treat girls
and women according to fanatical Hindu social conventions that forbid
chaste displays of affection between a sannyasi and persons of the
opposite sex. Some of my critics say 'well s/he is an hermaphrodite,
so what is the opposite sex of an hermaphrodite ? '
Attack me as a male sexist if you want. It is quite refreshing and
laughable to me. Daily I get accused by some fool somewhere of being
a Tantric Shakti cultist ! I am NOT a Left-Hand Tantrist. I am a
SATTVIC devotee of Rhoda /Radha-Shakti, and an expert on the world
history of the worship of The Feminine Divine. I am used to getting
accused of being a feminist, a lesbian, a Trojan-horse bearded-woman
in sannyasi saffron with an agenda to destroy thousands of years of
Hindu male privilege, and other nutty things. However, this is the
first time anyone has ever accused me of being a male sexist and
identified me with the abuse of women ! You have managed to do
something never done before ! Congratulations ! Your powers of
baseless speculation are truly amazing.
If really confused and sexist persons like Freud are your
authorities, no wonder you are personally so confused. In any event,
instead of remaining confused, it would be good for you to actually
learn something about someone next time before you publicly claim to
have figured out where they are coming from.
wishing you the humility to actually learn about someone before
damning them,
your well-wisher
Bhakti Ananda Goswami
(whose home Temple 'Altar' is graced by an Icon of Rhoda / Radha, and
whose life is full of much-loved, very REAL, FREE, and HONORED girls
and women.)
PS Your speculations about "Brian/Bridgitte" are probably no more
reality-based than your nonsense speculations about me. Stick to
what you know, and stop presenting yourself as having "figured out"
two people you apparently know nothing about.
Message 10034
From: leonmaurer@a...
Date: Sat Dec 28, 2002 10:19 pm
Subject: Re: Theos-World re BAG's speculations about HPB and ... ?
Haven't you guys already figured out where BAG is coming from?
Theosophical
metaphysics and its denial of a personal (Male) God/creator --
especially,
coming from a real women -- could stick in this ones craw like a
burning
coal. Remember how Hindus and Catholics treat their women? I'll bet
Freud,
Adler, Jung, Maslow and even Skinner would have loved to speculate on
this
package of goods.:-) BTW, did anyone ever wonder why we had so much
trouble
figuring out what ax Brian/Bridgitte had to grind, who he/she was,
and where
all that HPB & theosophy animosity was coming from?
LHM
In a message dated 12/28/02 4:46:49 AM, micforster@y... writes:
>
>--- Mauri <mhart@i...> wrote:
>> Why stop there, BAG? What are you really trying to
>> tell us?
>> What's next?
>>
>> Speculatively,
>> Mauri
>>
>
>
>Mauri,
>Might we be entering Freud territory now?
>
>Speculatively,
>Mic
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