Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00020)

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From: "Zack Lansdowne" <zackl@sprynet.com>
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Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:22 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re: HPB and the Nazi doctrines


> Bart wrote:
> > Well, Blavatsky was long dead when the Nazi's started. Many attribute
> > the statements of Alice Bailey, who, in spite of her spiritual
> > connections, was something of a bigot (she felt Blacks were inferior,
> > Jews deserved any bad thing that happened to them because of their
> > rejection of Jesus, and that all homosexuals were inherently evil), and
> > made a number of statements supportive of the Nazi's.
> >
>
> I have the complete set of Alice Bailey's 24 books on CD-ROM, and so I
> decided to check the accuracy of Bart's claim that Alice Bailey "made a
> number of statements supportive of the Nazi's." By doing a search on the
> word "Nazi", I learned that Bailey, in her books, used this word exactly
> nine times. The paragraphs in which she used this word are as follows:
>
> 1) The dangers growing out of hate, revenge and pain. These dangers will
be
> the most difficult to avoid. A deep-seated hatred of the Nazi regime (and
of
> the German nation as endorsing that regime) is steadily rising. This is
> almost inevitable, being based on the facts of Nazi activity. The task of
> the United Nations after the war will of necessity be-among other
things-to
> protect the German people from the hate of those whom they have so
> appallingly abused. This will be no easy thing to do. Retribution and
> revenge must not be permitted, and yet at the same time a just payment for
> evil action cannot, and should not, be avoided. The law ever works, and
that
> law states that whatsoever a man or nation sows, that shall it also reap.
> Germany has sown evil broadcast throughout the civilised world, and for
some
> time to come her lot must be hard and she will have to pay in sweat and
toil
> and tears for her evil deeds. But this payment should be part of the great
> work of rehabilitation and not a vengeful exaction, and if this is borne
in
> mind, no serious mistakes will be made. The German people must work
> strenuously to put right the evil they have done, as far as in them lies,
> but the next generation-at present in the cradle or at school-must not be
> penalised. (Bailey, Externalization of the Hierarchy, pp. 370-371)...

> The above paragraphs contain all of the instances in which Alice Bailey
used
> the word "Nazi" in her 24 books. Nowhere do I see any justification for
> Bart's claim that Alice Bailey "made a number of statements supportive of
> the Nazi's."
>
>
> Zack Lansdowne.

Dear Bart, I have done a search [nazism] looking for your suggestion that
AAB was supportive of the Nazi Third Reich, yet have only come up with this
which alongside the work of Zack does not add support to your proclamation.
A passage from "Problems Of Humanity" AAB, is also included for your future
reference.

Kindest Regards
Jeremy


"The ancient and inherited ideas which have controlled the racial life for
centuries -aggression for the sake of possession and the authority of a man
or a group or a church which represents the State. For purposes of policy
such powers may work behind the scenes but their tenets and motives are
easily recognizable - selfish ambition and a violently imposed authority.
Those ideas which are relatively new such as Nazism, Fascism, and Communism,
though they are not really as new as people are apt to think. They are alike
on one important point, i.e. The State or community of human beings counts
as of importance whilst the individual does not; he can be sacrificed at any
time for the good of the State or for the so-called general good. [9]
Destiny Of The Nations. AAB.

It is here that the power of speech makes itself felt, just as in the
department of religion or of education the power of the written word, of the
printed page, is felt. In the field of politics, the masses are swayed by
their orators, and never more so than now through the use of the radio.
Great ideas are dinned into the ear of the public without cessation -
theories as to dictatorship, communism, nazism, fascism, marxism,
nationalism and democratic ideals. Methods of rule by this or that group of
thinkers are presented to the public, leaving them no time for
consideration, or for clear thinking. Racial antipathies are spread, and
personal preferences and illusions find expression, bringing about the
deception of the unthinking. [115] The man who has a golden tongue, the man
who has the gift of playing with words and can voice with emphasis people's
grievances, the juggler in statistics, the fanatic with a certain and sure
cure for social ills and the man who loves to fan race hatreds, can ever get
a following. Such men can with facility upset the balance of the community
and lead a body of unthinking adherents to a transient success and power, or
to obloquy and oblivion. Education In New Age. AAB.

Shamballa force (in spite of its attendant risks) to pour into the world.
The objective was to stimulate the free will of the masses; the result upon
them has been relatively good as it has led to the formulation and
expression of the great world ideologies -Fascism, [127] Democracy and
Communism as well as that peculiarly distorted blend of Fascism and
Communism which goes by the name of Hitlerism or Nazism. All these
ideologies are fostered by the desire of the masses for the betterment of
the condition in which the populace in any country lives and it has become
focused, expressive and creative by the force of the Shamballa influence.
But another result of this inflow of the will-to-power has been to stimulate
a certain group of outstanding personalities in many lands so that they have
assumed control of the masses and can thus determine the policies and
methods -religious, political and social - of the different nations. In
every nation a relatively small group of people decide all important issues
and determine all major national activities. This they do either by force,
terror and deception or by persuasion, fair words and the application of
ideological motives. Externalisation Of The Hierarchy. AAB.

These nations want understanding cooperation; they want the implements for
agriculture, immediate relief in food and clothing, plus the wherewithal to
start again their educational institutions, to organize their schools and to
equip them with what is immediately required. They certainly do not want a
horde of [42] well-meaning people taking over their educational or medical
institutions, or imposing democratic, communistic or any other particular
ideology upon them. Naturally, the principles of Nazism and of Fascism must
be swept away, but the nations must be free to work out their own destiny.
They have each of them their own traditions, cultures and backgrounds. They
are being forced to build anew but what they build must be their own; it
must be distinctive of them and an expression of their own inner life. It is
surely the function of the wealthier and free nations to help them to build
so that the new world can come into being." Problems Of Humanity. AAB.