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RE: What Were They The Masters Of ? Parts III and IV together

Nov 26, 2002 03:02 AM
by dalval14

Nov 26 2002
Dear Steven:

Thanks for this copy for me to see ?

It is easier to read if you could break up your message into
paragraphs, and make the breaks when you change observations or
subject. Do help.

I don't make it a practice of quoting much from the MAHATMA LETTERS,
as The SECRET DOCTRINE which came at the end of that correspondence in
1888, sums up the Theosophical position, and sets Mr Sinnett's
writings into their true perspective..

I would never attribute motives to others as we do not know what they
are. But we can ask questions.

I find the MAHATMA LETTERS is most valuable in assisting devotees, and
in setting the ethical and moral tone for aspirant We can all use
that for self-examination. But the results are of course kept private
as they concern ourselves only, as I see it..

Exactly how things were, in H P B's time we can only guess at.

I think you are right in the matter of the goals of those who follow
the "eye" or the "heart" doctrines.

Best wishes,



-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Levey []
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World What Were They The Masters Of ? Parts III and
IV together

Dear Sir-It is clear to me that your eruditneness regarding the
lineage of
these things is profound, and far beyond me as a student. But, I have
something to say because I believe there are other perspectives (at
0ne) to take regarding the Mahatmas that are as self-validating to
student as your learned perspective is to you. I was a member of the
T.S 30
years ago and after a short stay of a couple of years, I joined the
Lodge of Theosophists. As a student of ancient wisdom in general I
a focus upon the concept of Mahatmas, primarily because the concept of
Masters of Wisdom as brothers and sincere spiritual human beings who
what they are through their own self-devised effort, is very
motivating. And
that is how they are characterized in true Theosophical writings. Now,
may feel, that becoming "what they are" is erroneous and therefore
certainly not be emulated. And, it seems, your decision would be made
upon what you have perused of the "Mahatma Letters". Frankly I would
actually felt similarly, if they were all I was steering my studies
by. My
study and the closest students within my circle of study feel as if
(The Mahatma Letters)are nearly impossible to use since their context
focus seemed to be to individual students. They are valid as
productions of
the beings attributed to, but their subject matter seemed to be
limited to
the student on the original receiving end. Therefore, and as such,
should never have been published to a general audience. I read them
they came my way as a member of the T.S. At that time, as I do when I
something difficult to characterize or to practically use, I put them
on a
"back burner", so to speak. Upon spending many years studying HPB's
Secret Doctrine along with her collective writings as well as William
Judge's, Robert Crosbie, and others, it became clear to me that
students who
flaunt knowledge of the Mahatma Letters are doing so for some
purpose. Why? Because when you place what the Mahatmas have said in
context in which they are placed in thoughtful writings aimed at
giving the
student as much context as possible in which to understand their
wisdom, one
might learn something useful. Otherwise, the Mahatma Letters stand
only as
an enigma. Real, but rather practically useless. Those in HPB's direct
lineage, which leaves out many, if not most writers in the
Society, who have received further instruction from the Lodge of
have never given a collection of the Mahatma letters to be printed.
have ALWAYS been excerpted and put in the context of principled
regarding a subject matter in discussion. Why excerpted? Because it is
to students of the Wisdom religion, that the Chelas of Mahatmas are
instructions as to how the wisdom of the Teacher will be used. This
trust is
beyond question amongst those so chosen. In fact that is part and
parcel of
the Teacher-Disciple relationship. None the less, each student is
to study on their own and to draw their own conclusions.
Perhaps, more importantly, is the ideal of putting to work the
ethical thought, word and deed that one can. The great Paramitas are
always overlooked by the phenomena addicted student. This great
teaching is pronounced by HPB and Her Teachers as the paramount motive
behind the Theosophical Movement. This is true now and I know it was
true in
HPB's day. And discussion of high beings and their powers are a
trap. AS can be the trap of high erudition because it can become an
end in
itself. The path which it uncovers may seem not as "tasty" to the
mind, as
the nearly tactile feeling of accruing knowledge, which leaves the
inclined, ethical student within, simply ignored. The becoming of the
Pratyeka Buddha is at the crown of this while the Nirmanakaya is the
of the practice of the Heart Doctrine. These choices need to be made
and one
is making them by our inclinations whether we know it or not. A good
thing I
say. Sincerely-Steven Levey

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