Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00827)

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that when a tree falls in the
forest, if no ear is there to hear it, then no sound exists? That is, when
the autumn leaves turn their golden yellows and orange REDS, if no eye is
there to see it, then no color exists?

Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Stubbs" <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Theism Can't Honestly Be Dismissed


> --- In theos-talk@y..., Bart Lidofsky <bartl@s...> wrote:
> > Actually, you said that "the color red does not exist", a very
> > different statement. However, if you meant what you now wrote, I
> will
> > say that the existence or non-existence of Universals is still
> unproven.
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> I don't want to labor the point, but I am missing something here.
> Given that the color red is an experience, how can anyone say that it
> exists objectively? And given that it is an experiece, how can there
> be any difference between the statement that "the experience of the
> color red does not ecist" and the statement that "the color red does
> not exist."
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> Incidentally the distinction between phenomena (experience) and the
> noumena (objectibe reality) is not something discovered by me. It
> has been written about by philosophers in the west since the
> seventeenth century and is generally accepted by scientists today.
> It is also fundamental to Blavatsky's SD. although I have yet to meet
> a Theosophist who understands what she says about it.
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