Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00400)

DEAR MR. WES AMERMAN,

WHEN I HAVE REFERED TO THE EVOLUTION OF A THOUGHT-SYSTEM AND SOCIAL 
MOVEMENT FROM ONE CENTURY INTO THE NEXT AND FROM SRI LANKA TO GREAT 
BRITAIN AND GERMANY IN THE THIRD REICH, WHY DO YOU TRY TO IMPEACH THE 
HISTORICAL FACTS REGARDING WHAT I HAVE REFERED TO, WITH A STATEMENT 
FROM HPB WRITTEN AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE DEVELOPEMENT OF THE 
ENTIRE THOUGHT-SYSTEM?

I DID NOT INVENT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OLCOTT / THEOSOPHY AND THE 
SINHALESE 'ARYAN' PERSECUTION OF THE TAMILS, BUT I DID GO TO SRI 
LANKA AND STUDY THE SITUATION THERE. I HAVE MERELY REPORTED ON WHAT 
COUNTLESS SOULS IN THE REGION KNOW, THAT SINHALESE RACIST ARYANISM, 
WHICH HAS AN HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO THEOSOPHY, IS AT THE ROOT OF 
THE ONGOING CONFLICT IN THAT REGION. WHY SHOOT THE MESSENGER ? 

ar as Mr. Goswhami [sic] goes, I don't know nor could care less what 
his
> credentials might be -- as if he were some sort of authority on 
Blavatsky!
> Daniel provided the following timely quote from Mr. Goswami, which 
should
> make it abundantly clear that the latter has absolutely no idea what
> Theosophy is about:
> 
> "H. P. Blavatsky and the Theosophists and early Aryanists made Sri
> Lanka one of their world headquarters for exporting their militant
> atheism. 

THEISM IS A SIMPLE CONCEPT. IMPERSONALISM AND VOIDISM ARE NOT ANY 
FORMS OF THEISM. DESPITE ANY KIND OF SOPHISTRY AND WORD JUGGLERY, 
THE VOIDISM OF THE THERAVADIN TRADITION OF SINHALESE BUDDHISM IS ONE 
OF THE MOST VOIDIST AND ATHEISTIC THOUGHT-SYSTEMS ON EARTH. THIS 
TRADITION WAS INFLUENCED BY AND IN TURN INFLUENCED THE TEACHINGS OF 
HPB, OLCOTT AND THEOSOPHY. 

Aryosophist esotericism in Britain and Germany became
> pervaded with Theravadin Buddhist thought. 

THE INFLUENCE OF 'ESOTERIC' BUDDHIST AND SUFI THOUGHT ON THE ANGLO-
GERMAN ARYANISTS IS WELL ATTESTED. LIKE OLCOTT AND THE SINHALESE, 
SRI LANKAN BUDDHIST ATHEISM, ETC. THE THINGS THAT I HAVE MENTIONED IN 
MY SUMMARIES HAVE ALL BEEN TREATED BY OTHER SCHOLARS. IF YOU ARE NOT 
FAMILIAR WITH THE HISTORICAL FACTS OF THESE THINGS, THEN DON'T 'SHOOT 
THE MESSENGER' (MYSELF) FOR BRINGING THEM UP. 

This 'Aryanism' doctrine
> of voidism and related moral relativism eventually became central to
> the conscienceless atrocities of the Third Reich. Theravadin
> Buddhist voidism has not been a benevolent force in history ! . ."
> 
THE LAST CENTURY OF HORRORS INFLICTED ON THE TAMIL SHAIVITES OF SRI 
LANKA BY THE 'ARYAN' SINHALESE BUDDHISTS, AND THE CONNECTIONS OF THE 
THOUGHT-SYSTEM TO THE 'ESOTERISM' OF THE THIRD REICH ARE FACTS OF 
HISTORY, WHICH HAVE BEEN WELL TREATED BY OTHER SCHOLARS. I DO NOT 
NEED TO PROVE ANY OF THIS TO YOU. YOU MAY BE AN EXPERT ON WHAT HPB 
SAID, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER ROOT-
RACES IDEAS AFTER THEY DIFFUSED INTO THE WORLD. 


> There is so much mere assertion, misinformation and innuendo 
contained just
> in this first paragraph that I hardly know where to start -- What, 
for
> example, is Theosophy's "militant atheism?" Blavatsky fought, to 
be sure,
> against dogmatic religion and religious hypocrisy, but to accuse 
her of
> "atheism" is the height of ignorance. 


READ THE MAHATMA'S STATEMENTS ON "GOD" IN THE LETTERS. WAS THIS 
CLEAR ATHEISM EVER WHOLLY REJECTED BY HPB ? SEARCH THE MAHATMA 
LETTERS ARCHIVESFOR "GOD". READ EVEN THE POSTS ON THIS LIST !


What is the value of such contrived
> phrases as "Aryosophist esotericism," 

WHY IS THIS A 'CONTRIVED' PHRASE WHEN THERE WAS A WHOLE MOVEMENT OF 
ARYOSOPHIC ESOTERICISM ? 

"voidism"

DON'T BLAME ME FOR THE BUUDHIST VOIDISTS'S VOIDISM. ASK MASEO ABE 
ABOUT ABSOLUTE NOTHINGNESS. 


and "related moral
> relativism?" 

I DID NOT INVENT THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WITH NO ULTIMATE MEANING OR 
VALUES USUALLY ARE MORAL RELATIVISTS. 

On the surface or to the uneducated, they might sound
> learned, but they reek of academic bullshit. This conclusion is 
supported
> by the next sentence, that these ideas "eventually became central 
to the
> conscienceless atrocities of the Third Reich."!!!!!!!! What crap, 
Brian.

I GUESS YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE RESEARCH ON THE ESOTERIC 
ORIGINS OF THE BELIEF-SYSTEM OF THE THIRD REICH. 


> And you have the temerity to bring this man forward on this list 
and promote
> him as an "authority" on Theosophy and Blavatsky???? 


WHY DOES A DISCUSSION OF ELEMENTS OF THEOSOPHICAL THOUGHT IN LATER 
ARYANSISM ANGER YOU SO ? I HAVE STATED THAT I DO NOT EQUATE HPB'S 
PERSONAL ARYANISM WITH THAT OF THE NAZIS. SHE ONLY STARTED SOMETHING 
WHICH TURNED UGLY AND DANGEROUS IN THE HANDS OF OTHERS. 

I'm sure anyone who
> has ever read Blavatsky with half an eye open could find ample 
references in
> her writings to refute this garbage. 

HOW CAN YOU USE A STATEMENT MADE IN ONE CENTURY TO 'REFUTE' THE 
EXISTANCE OF AN HISTORICAL REALITY IN THE NEXT ?


One line from Blavatsky should suffice
> as a start: "Theosophy is altruism, and we cannot repeat it too 
often."
> And have you ever read the first object of the Theosophical 
Society: "To
> form the nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity without 
distinction
> of race, color or creed?" [Key to Theosophy, p 39]


I ALSO DON'T BLAME JESUS CHRIST FOR THE SPANISH INQUISITION, OR BLAME 
SIDDARTHA GAUTAMA BUDDHA FOR THE SINS OF THE SINHALESE BUDDHISTS. 

YOU AND YOUR ALLIES HAVE CREATED A 'STRAW MAN' ENEMY OUT OF ME. I DO 
NOT THINK HPB WAS SOME KIND OF MONSTER. I HAVE NOT DRAGGED HER INTO 
THE THIRD REICH OR THE RECENT DECADES OF GLOBAL HORRORS INFLICTED BY 
ARYANIST RACISTS. THEY USED SOME OF 'HER' IDEAS, THAT IS ALL. WHY DO 
YOU INSIST THAT I AM ASCRIBING THEIR HATRED TO HER ? I AM INTERESTED 
IN THE HISTORY OF IDEAS, ESPECIALLY DANGEROUS ONES THAT HARM PEOPLE. 
I HAVE NO PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST HPB. ALTRUISTIC THEOSOPHISTS HAVE 
NOT MURDERED THOUSANDS OF TAMILS, AND ARE NOT BLOWING UP TAMIL 
LIBRARIES AND DESTROYING TEMPLES AND CULTURAL TREASURES BY THE 
HUNDREDS. ALTRUISTIC TS MEMBERS ARE NOT THE NEO-NAZI ARYANISTS WHO 
HAVE SENT ME DEATH THREATS IN THE MAIL. I HAVE NO QUARREL WITH REAL 
ALTUISTS OF ANY KIND. IT IS THE KILLERS AND CULTURE-DESTROYERS THAT 
ARE TRYING TO DESTROY OR OPPRESS NON'ARYAN' PEOPLES THAT I AM 
CONCERNED ABOUT. MY INTEREST IN THEOSOPHY IS IN PART BECAUSE IT IS 
STILL GENERATING THE ROOT-RACES IDEAS THAT SO READILY MUTATE 
INTO 'ARYANIST'GENOCIDAL CAMPAIGNS. IF THEOSOPHISTS ARE NOT 
DOGMATISTS, WHY CAN'T THEY TREAT HPB/ THE MAHATMAS AS SOMETHING OTHER 
THAN INFALLIBLE ? WHY CAN'T THEY ADMIT THAT THE ROOT RACES IDEA WAS 
WRONG TO BEGIN WITH ? ARE THE CHINESE OR AFRICANS REALLY DYING 
OUT ? 

DUE TO THE BEHAVIOR OF SOME PEOPLE ON THIS LIST, I WILL PROBABLY NOT 
BE POSTING HERE AGAIN. 

BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL,

BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI
> Just what is your purpose in "contributing" to this list? To prove 
that
> there are "experts" in academia who share your views? To dissuade 
inquirers
> from looking into Theosophy? To attack your least favorite 
historical
> personages and hope that others will come to share your biases?
> 
> Best Regards,
> Wes Amerman