Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00342)

Hi Brian and all of you,

Brain --- I am afraid, that if you want to have solid PROOFS - it will NOT
be a physical one.
Try this sentence: It will maybe be a surprise experience for you to know or
to learn to know, that Wisdom and inner insight of truth about certain
issues are a REAL and TRUE fact in this universe of ours - with all what i
contains visible and invisible depending on the individual involved.
This particular wisdom or insight contains a sort of similar kind of PROOF,
which your 'senses' or 'faculty of reason' has to you today.


from
M. Sufilight with a friendly attempt...



----- Original Message -----
From: "brianmuehlbach" <brianmuehlbach@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:24 AM
Subject: Theos-World No evidence but the "will" to believe, plus fairy tale
"stories."


> People like Dallas the Broek (Dalval) or Daniel Caldwell do is shower
> people with outdated Theosophical propaganda material. It is like with
> Jehovas Witnesses (have you ever seen someone try to get you to "look"
> at The Watchtower ?), well they know that once reading the stuff many
> people often do join. The same on this list, Dalval often answer a
> question with one sentence, but then slips half a book of literature in
his
> post totally non-related to the subject, "here read this" and so does
> Caldwell just post tons of material ("just read this" the same material
> over and over) without ever answering a single question. Were is the
> proof the source of The Mahatma Letters is what Dalval and Caldwell
> suggest it is, including the (secondary) claim that they would be
> magically produced out of thin air.(Precipitated they call it among
others,
> plus letters appeard from the ceiling and so on)
> The reading of a telegram from some mysterious and unnamed source
> ordering the re-appointment of Mrs. Kingsford to the Presidency of the
> London Lodge, closed for a time the rift in that body's ranks between the
> Hermetist and the Buddhist sections. Although the message came
> through "Koot Hoomi", a letter from him to the members declared it to
> be "the express wish of the Chohan himself" (M.L., P. 398).
>
> A month later the advice of the telegram was admitted to be
> an "unusual, not to say arbitrary interference with the reserved elective
> rights of a Branch" (M.L., P. 4o6), and a decision by ballot was
> recommended in its stead. Nevertheless, the precedent of the telegram
> was remembered and followed in a later crisis' when the Presidency of
> the parent society was involved. In 1908, Colonel Olcott, Madame
> Blavatsky's successor, lay paralysed and awaiting his end.
> The Master K.H. ,so we have it in the words of Annie Besant appeared
> at his bedside of Olcott and "ordered him to nominate me to the
> Presidency". This alleged visitation took place seven years after the
> death of Madame Blavatsky.
> One begins to see that there is scarcely a limit to what a mythical
> Master can do, so long as it is something that his credulous disciples can
> desire and believe.
>
>
> Another example promulgated on behalf of the Maha-Chohan at
> Kensington Town Hall on October 12, 1925, the that time President of
> the TS announced ; "In the realm of psychology, the doctrine of
> the "Seven Principles of Man". first educed with tortuous efforts from
> ancient Indian books, and passed on for publication to Mr. Sinnett in the
> flimsies of the 'eighties, finally became the stock-in trade of later
> teachers. Although the early Upanishads and philosophical Sutras of the
> Indians had speculated on the septenary doctrine for centuries"
> But it was not to them that Theosophists turned for support, but to the
> petty plagiarisms of the Letters, afterwards condensed into the shilling
> Manuals of Leadbeater, Annie Besant, and many others since.
> In regard to Theology, later Theosophical writers have followed the
> Mahatmas' lead into a stifling fog of contradictory metaphysics.
> Beginning as Buddhists, they denied God; continuing as Hindus, they
> affirmed Him as the Parabrahm of the Vedantins.
>
> Today (Nov.14, 2002 ) the TS also states,,, in the name of the Masters
> and by their orders, a Theosophical Liberal Catholic Church, in which
> they celebrate the Mass and recite the Apostles' Creed.
>
>
> The reading of a telegram from some mysterious and unnamed source
> ordering the re-appointment of Mrs. Kingsford to the Presidency of the
> London Lodge, closed for a time the rift in that body's ranks between the
> Hermetist and the Buddhist sections. Although the message came
> through "Koot Hoomi", a letter from him to the members declared it to
> be "the express wish of the Chohan himself" (M.L., P. 398).
>
> A month later the advice of the telegram was admitted to be
> an "unusual, not to say arbitrary interference with the reserved elective
> rights of a Branch" (M.L., P. 4o6), and a decision by ballot was
> recommended in its stead. Nevertheless, the precedent of the telegram
> was remembered and followed in a later crisis' when the Presidency of
> the parent society was involved. In 1908, Colonel Olcott, Madame
> Blavatsky's successor, lay paralysed and awaiting his end.
> The Master K.H. ,so we have it in the words of Annie Besant appeared
> at his bedside of Olcott and "ordered him to nominate me to the
> Presidency". This alleged visitation took place seven years after the
> death of Madame Blavatsky.
> One begins to see that there is scarcely a limit to what a mythical
> Master can do, so long as it is something that his credulous disciples can
> desire and believe.
>
>
>
>
>
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