Theos-Talk Archives (October 2002 Message tt00178)

Hi. This is Wry. I am quite disgusted with the recent conversations on this list. I do not have a problem with people discussing politics IF it is done in such a way that it leads to a transformation of the individual. Though I personally agree with a lot of Bart's political messages, and especially this most recent one of 10/22, I believe that even his messages are not pointing a way to individual transformation. 

What many people do not seem to understand is that President Bush is a result of causes and conditions, just as the rest of us and does not exist on his own side. He is not a fully conscious person, just like most of us (more probably ALL of us, including me.) Blaming him or others like him will not solve this problem or make it go away.

What Bart has said about the United States I agree with, but this is not the point. The point is that as people, we tend to look outside of ourselves for the solutions to problems we are INTERCONNECTED to. We do this because we are ignorant and do not understand the basic principles of physical reality. When we approach life with a wrong view we compound and solidify any problems that exist. 

"If wishes were horses, rides would be free." (Well said, Bart.) What is a radical transformation of consciousness and what would that entail? Sorry I have to say something so obvious, but talking about crop circles or the writings of Madame Blavatsky or the karma of Australia is not going to help us out on this one. There is an tendency of the mind to interpret onself as an eternal, self-sustaining and independent entity who exists independent and outside of physical reality. Though this tendency seems to be inherent, it can be supported and strengthened by a certain kind of intellectualization, in which certain assumptions about the nature of physical reality are taken as givens. I believe that certain views are so invalid that to counter them in lengthy discussions actually serves to support these views rather than weaken them.

The proper approach, in my opinion, is to keep focused on genuine questions, with oneself always as the object of enquiry, and to attempt to develop a practice which involves an in -the- moment, hands on, impartial (as possible) verification of myself AS I AM during my daily endeavors, and eventually to learn how to use each other as a support group to keep focused and on the track and to develop the courage and strength to fearlessly and with vigour make whatever effort is necessary to do such practice,


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